UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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City_Rabin was jumped on by a blogger. A City blogger. It seems City blogger thinks he's a real journo now, so he insulted Rabin when Rabin, who had been tagged in the thread that involved a couple of hacks, pointed out one of the journo's hypocrisies. Rabin didn't want to be the focus of a blue-on-blue ruck, so he deactivated his account. Well done, City blogger.

"Jumped on"


Fucking hell lol.
 
I think the hatred towards City and us fans perhaps took us by surprise, it did me. I know we arent liked but I thought the press/media are a fucking disgrace. For my own state of mind I stopped looking or reading or listening to any news etc from about thursday last week, it was getting to depressing for me. This and mcfc website are my go to places now
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I used to like consuming news about City in any format and twitter was always more immediate. I have deleted loads of followed accounts on twitter, some big organisations and some I have followed for years. It became too toxic, snide and spiteful. You could tell the "journalists" were getting a kick out of it. Don't generally buy papers (used to every day) and if i do the sports section is ignored or goes straight to recycling which is crazy considering how mad a fan I am. The sports radio channels no longer listened to. I do follow Man City Xtra, City Chief, and quite a few reliable blues on twitter and get my news from them. My twitter feed has improved as has my state of mind.
 
But hey didn't respond back to the club on a point by point basis, thus breaking FFP investegatory processes. Therefore the chances of them NOT reading it ARE pretty high.

These processes simply don't work that way. Even if they come to a different conclusion, they read whatever submissions we made.
 
Think that's probably right. However if CAS say the case against us is flawed and along with other clubs cases shows a pattern that their FFP is flawed in implemetation and how it's set up , could they issue a statement that recomends UEFA undergo a complete reveiw of both the FFP rules and the way it's investigated ?
If that happened it would represent a victory against FFP without us taking action against UEFA unilateraly.
I think they could make any reasonable recs, since it is an arbitration service, not a court. If they find the process was flawed, they may well rec changes to that process. How about they start on the qu of genuine independence for the control body?
 
I particularly enjoyed this little separate two par jab in Martin Samuel's Daily Mail column today...

When Manchester City were banned by UEFA there was much excitement that Sheffield United might get into the Champions League. And, yes, it would have been marvellous. Have a look at fifth place now, though. You didn't really think David Gill put all those hours in at UEFA so they could catch a break at Bramhall Lane, did you?

Nail. Head.
 
This. I deleted the Guardian app from my phone last Tuesday. It's amazing how much more relaxed I've been since.

100% agree, I am off work at the moment due to depression, what happened last week with the way the press/media attacked City and us fans starting pulling me down further. Lucky for me I stopped read anything in the press/media and from yesterday I started to feel alot better.
Bluemoon and mcfc websites are all I read I dont do tweeter, Facebook etc. I feel alot better for it.
Keep strong feel blues
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If the CAS state categorically that City have no case to answer then City will surely have grounds for legal action against uefa... I don't know what the statute of limitations is on civil cases in Europe, but just imagine the situation... City do nothing, but uefa have the threat of legal action hanging over them...whilst that was the case would we see anymore refs like the clowns home and away against the victims a couple of years ago, or the idiot who was only capable of looking at one inconclusive angle of Spurs handball goal last season?

The one who stitched us up against Liverpool at home and the previous season against Monaco at home was the same Catalan hating Spanish referee.
 
To be fair it’s difficult with that Turkish guy - he’s completely incompetent. He causes ructions whenever he officiates so hard to say whether he’s a cheat or just crap. It’s inexplicable that he gets selected for so many top games because he’s a woeful official. Would fit right in with his peers in the PL.

By the same rule how does Oliver get to referee CL games? He's one of the worst of a very bad bunch that we have in the PL.
 
That depends on Swiss law. I guess UEFA is defined as a trade association. Do they have any special protections under swiss law?
Secondly, Soriano specifically said we had no argument with UEFA generally, just with the financial control body. The likelihood of us suing UEFA is nil, with future relationships in mind.

A more interesting question IMO is what liability do individuals have?

Yves Leterme is the 1 person the club have accused of inproper conduct. We know from the PSG case that as the head of the IC he has total power, and was able to summarily dismiss the objections of his colleagues without reason.

If he is the single person who has stopped the club from giving their evidence and made his ruling, then he is the single person responsible for all of the reputation damage done by his decision and his reaction to the accusation of leaking was the very definition of protesting too much.

So what exposure to civil or criminal action does he have personally if we get cleared, and he didn't follow the process he was supposed to?
 
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