UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[BlueMoonz1977]

Quick note on the leaked documents

Pinto have admitted multiple times that he didn't obtain all of the 'leaked documents' himself

So a club, agent or individual / group other than Pinto potentially hacked or stole the City documents

I doubt that this was done via the goodness of someone's heart, so can a third party who financially benefits from the stolen documents count as a whistleblower?

well that line on its own there, is quite remarkable and highly important if it is true. That then opens the floor to 2 scenarios occurring.

1 - an insider working at the club has done this (which would seem to tie in with the footballs leaks report that suggests employee's within our club do not have the clubs best interests at heart)
2 - an organisation has committed an illegal corporate hack

There is only one way that this can be resolved and that is, if we have it (and i hope we do) is to take those responsible to court once UEFA have played their card

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

How could UEFA have viewed the emails? Are you suggesting they are considering throwing us out of the champions league on here say?

It has taken our media a long time to realise that UEFA do not have a leg to stand on. If they try to ban us City will destroy them in the courts. CFG operates globally and the damages and costs would be huge. The senior leaders at UEFA would lose their jobs...and they know it.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

well that line on its own there, is quite remarkable and highly important if it is true. That then opens the floor to 2 scenarios occurring.

1 - an insider working at the club has done this (which would seem to tie in with the footballs leaks report that suggests employee's within our club do not have the clubs best interests at heart)
2 - an organisation has committed an illegal corporate hack

There is only one way that this can be resolved and that is, if we have it (and i hope we do) is to take those responsible to court once UEFA have played their card

City's handful of emails form a tiny part of tens of millions of documents stolen. Pinto's main targets were Sporting Lisbon and Benfica. I don't think any of the 90 charges against Pinto even relate to City. Pinto claims he wasn't acting alone but you can't believe a word he says. He also claims he is a whistleblower and not motivated by money but the authorities found millions in his Swiss bank accounts and he was reportedly trapped in a sting operation trying to collect a ransom. The Pinto cache of stolen documents is said to be bigger than the information hacked by Julian Assange.
City are just a tiny part of this story.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

A penny for UEFA's thoughts when we turned up with an eight-strong legal team and they had a miserly two?

The fact they asked for their 60k costs to be reimbursed, suggests the coffers don't run too deep!

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

A penny for UEFA's thoughts when we turned up with an eight-strong legal team and they had a miserly two?

The fact they asked for their 60k costs to be reimbursed, suggests the coffers don't run too deep!

This could well be a landmark case in football, once and for all

 

[bluemonkey71]

Have I missed a major update on this? Have we met with UEFA now and told them bring it on?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

This could well be a landmark case in football, once and for all

The truly big cases are only ever won by someone who has the motivation and deeper pockets to keep it in litigation.

Goodness knows what it costs to keep a QC on retainer, never mind all the other expertise from separate firms and abroad?

I suspect a letter costs more than £40 an hour!

This has to be a consideration for UEFA, when also factoring in their own legal costs?

If it does go nuclear in CAS, where every cough and splutter would seemingly be allowed, the burden of proof must surely lie at the feet of UEFA, as they only have hacked email reports from Football Leaks website, and we have subsequently provided context and supporting evidence.

That's when reputational damage also comes in to it?

Must be talking tens of millions.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Have I missed a major update on this? Have we met with UEFA now and told them bring it on?

I think CAS is more or less telling UEFA to bring it on if they dare.

Be it on their head.

 

[Dirty Harry]

If I was a betting man I’d put my money on Livarpool. From the outside, it seems to me that the Glazers don’t particularly care about winning: it’s just business. John W. Henry is a sports owner who wants to enrich himself but he also wants to win in the process.

There’s a scene at the end of the film “Moneyball” - I highly recommend it by the way - that can enlighten you to his mindset. What’s more enlightening is the reports coming out of the USA in respect to his baseball franchise; doping, stealing of signs and illegality.

Oh I don't know mate, it wouldn't surprise me if if there was a lot of colluding and this was a joint effort between liverpool and the rags, namely Gill, who, I've never trusted from day one, it'll have his dabs on this somewhere I'm sure, you can bet your Grannies knockers on that !

 

[Prater70]

Reading article in the Independent today. Doesn't look good. Any decision taken against us would be mirrored by Premiership.