UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Ric]

Do we have to follow UEFA FFP when we are banned? I am guessing its part of the penalty?

It’s a three year rolling period, so ignoring it would just result in another ban when this one finishes.

 

[Asa's left peg]

Consider this scenario. You're accused of a crime you didn't commit but you're confident you'll be exonerated because you have a dossier full of evidence that proves you're innocent while all the prosecution have is third hand hearsay sourced from a person currently in custody awaiting trial for a number of very serious charges. At your trial you notice a business rival, whose company stands to benefit if you're found guilty, sitting on the jury. Then the judge refuses your lawyer permission to present the "irrefutable" evidence that would clear you. On top of that, while your trial is still ongoing, the judge is leaking to the press that you'll be found guilty and even the sentence you'll get. Then you get found guilty. However, there is public and media outrage at the unfair trial and lack of due process.

That in a nutshell is the situation City found themselves in. Apart from the public and media outrage.

Thats a really good analogy.

 

[Sergio Silva]

Hopefully our fans will actually turn up for the match in the week now and we can boo those corrupt UEFAs!!!!

everyone knows UEFA is run by rags and dippers

 

[bondsman]

There was a very public and strong statement from them last night.

Is it the press declining to discuss it then? All I see is the league 2 shit, pep leaving etc. Don’t think sky have it at all on their news feed

 

[Gordyola]

I totally agree with you BUT I do kind of think that if we genuinely felt on the right side of the argument we should have contested this in court from the off. Instead we've just done our own thing, broken the rules and hoped we'd get away with it. I don't think we've covered ourselves in glory here and I'm pretty disappointed that an operation as slick as ours hasn't found a smarter way of dealing with this. Really hoping that on appeal this will reduced to one year (which I can deal with given next season will be quite transitional) and also that we go completely mental and tear down every other club we can. Plenty of other clubs are behaving in a very dodgy manner and I hope we make sure they're called out on it.

The issue the club have had from the onset is that as the new boys they didn’t want to rock the boat They negotiated with UEFA a deal that was the final settlement basically for the good of football HH was prepare to spend as much as necessary to take it to law but must have been persuaded that it was best to “take a pinch” The Arab nation put great store in being honourable and expect the same The cartel who control football have been determined to stop City they have had to watch as the club grows to be one of the top clubs in world football both on and off the field The leaked emails gave them an weapon to once again try to stop City so they used their puppet UEFA and their corrupt rules and regulations once again The club submitted a comprehensive document when initially charged but in their hast, due to the 5 year limit, the investigative panel sent their report with a recommendation to the next step the UEFA chamber with a recommendation to ban City for one year, they also leaked this to all their masters and their friends in the media as to what they were going to do to bad old City. The club rightly complained that the process was suppose to be highly confidential, both parties had signed up for this, and that there was no way in the time it had taken to have conducted a complete examination and that their evidence could not have been considered. The club took these complaints to CAS, prematurely but obviously there was a reason for this CAS went through due process and were disturbed in UEFA’s conduct vindication of the clubs complaint but it was out of process as UEFA hadn’t completed the “chamber” step so it was basically thrown out. A few days later UEFA announced their verdict preceded by a few articles in the press, more leaks, celebrating the further punishment. So now the gloves are off City now appeal to CAS and the case will be examined by legal people in the correct way From what I’ve read the CAS verdict is the last step, although I guess WHEN we win UEFA will be sued along with others for damages HH will get his day in court after all

 

[aguero93:20]

Consider this scenario. You're accused of a crime you didn't commit but you're confident you'll be exonerated because you have a dossier full of evidence that proves you're innocent while all the prosecution have is third hand hearsay sourced from a person currently in custody awaiting trial for a number of very serious charges. At your trial you notice a business rival, whose company stands to benefit if you're found guilty, sitting on the jury. Then the judge refuses your lawyer permission to present the "irrefutable" evidence that would clear you. On top of that, while your trial is still ongoing, the judge is leaking to the press that you'll be found guilty and even the sentence you'll get. Then you get found guilty. However, there is public and media outrage at the unfair trial and lack of due process.

That in a nutshell is the situation City found themselves in. Apart from the public and media outrage.

That's why we have appellate courts.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Do we have to follow UEFA FFP when we are banned? I am guessing its part of the penalty?

The next thing now behind the scenes you will have united and liverpool lobbying the FA to impose a points reduction starting from next season - you watch, and if that does show to be the case....

Well i though it strange at the time that john w henry wanted assurances from the FA regarding ffp rules

What assurances ? were these....part of the long game from the americans

 

[Ric]

Is it the press declining to discuss it then? All I see is the league 2 shit, pep leaving etc. Don’t think sky have it at all on their news feed

Most sensible articles I’ve seen about the verdict have referenced our response, albeit not always even-handedly. Anyway, here it is in case you missed it:
https://www.mancity.com/news/club-news/club-news/2020/february/manchester-city-club-statement

 

[George Hannah]

CNN presenting both sides of the story in their report this morning - fair and balanced - but they are based in Abu Dhabi. Anyway it's our station of choice for a while now ;)

 

[Its in The Blood]

I’m quite looking forward to this fight. I think like in the club statement City expect CAS to say 1 year ban. But the statement reads that City are prepared to go to the Swiss high court.

I think the cartel have realised that city have amassed a £500m war chest by the sale of share issue to the Chinese and American investors that City group were supposedly going to use for all our football teams. We need to pursue Restraint of trade through the courts like Bosman did. This would then separate the men from the boys.