UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[M18CTID]

I'd be surprised if CAS informs either party before the other and probably only 24-48 hours before it being public. I think this leaves us to read between the lines as to confidence.

UEFA have been really tight - no public rumours at all as far as I have seen - if they have said things to journalists I haven't heard it or seen on it Twitter. Not heard any of the usual suspects in the media give any feedback on how UEFA feel.

From City, a couple of people have said the vibe internally is positive but who knows if that is new news or parroting the strident views of the club pre-CAS. There have been no positive signs on transfers which is a lead indicator - I don't think we are currently acting as if we know we are clear. Likewise with Pep contractually (no decision, no positive noises) and his tone is generally downbeat(ish) or neutral (good external reasons for that of course).

I think, on balance, at this stage, the parties simply don't know.

Yep. Despite the insistence of the club that they’ve done nothing wrong, and rumblings from our side that the hearing went well, as much as I want it to be a slam dunk for City I just can’t get ahead of myself. As you say, CAS won’t let either party know the outcome until just before it becomes public. Of course, there could be a strong feeling amongst both parties as to what the outcome might be if someone came up with a game-changing piece of evidence to tip the balance in their favour (hopefully us of course!).

 

[mayo31]

When the 3 CAS members 'meet' do you reckon it will be a case of a vote and done.

No discussion or perhaps a full on discussion as one party or another may be unsure which way to go.

 

[slbsn]

When the 3 CAS members 'meet' do you reckon it will be a case of a vote and done.

No discussion or perhaps a full on discussion as one party or another may be unsure which way to go.

They will go through each of the key questions and decide as a panel. Of course there will be discussion and reasoning.

 

[Chris in London]

The fact that it was the result of an argument over horse semen makes it even funnier.

come again?

 

[Akpowell]

How will CAS Inform City and Uefa, of the out come.
Will it be a telephone call, e-mail, letter or a text message on Mulbarak's phone

 

[bluemanchester]

Would love to agree but think it’s much more likely that UEFA are playing it safe as CAS did raise legitimate concerns first time round of UEFA leaking to the press. If they did it this time they would seriously jeopardise their chances.

Ending up with egg on their faces, UEFA, the media and press.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

I'd be surprised if CAS informs either party before the other and probably only 24-48 hours before it being public. I think this leaves us to read between the lines as to confidence.

UEFA have been really tight - no public rumours at all as far as I have seen - if they have said things to journalists I haven't heard it or seen on it Twitter. Not heard any of the usual suspects in the media give any feedback on how UEFA feel.

From City, a couple of people have said the vibe internally is positive but who knows if that is new news or parroting the strident views of the club pre-CAS. There have been no positive signs on transfers which is a lead indicator - I don't think we are currently acting as if we know we are clear. Likewise with Pep contractually (no decision, no positive noises) and his tone is generally downbeat(ish) or neutral (good external reasons for that of course).

I think, on balance, at this stage, the parties simply don't know.

Didn't CAS say they would name the date in advance of publishing their verdict.

Think it will be something like a Friday CAS will say their verdict to be published on the Monday.

City and uefa will find out the verdict a day or two in advance as you suggest.

If any genuine leaks happen, most certainly won't be until after CAS have named the date for publication of the verdict.

 

[bluemanchester]

How will CAS Inform City and Uefa,
Will it be telephone, e-mail, letter or a text message on Mulbarak's phone

New York Times,UEFA and City a week later. I posted that a couple of week's ago and somebody replied I forgot to add the livarpool echo will know before City.

 

[Winchester]

New York Times,UEFA and City a week later. I posted that a couple of week's ago and somebody replied I forgot the livarpool echo will know before City.

The Peckham Echo too,?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

How will CAS Inform City and Uefa, of the out come.
Will it be a telephone call, e-mail, letter or a text message on Mulbarak's phone

They’ll email City and it’ll be published in Der Spiegel and the Liverpool Echo.......

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

come again?

Fall out over stud fees from Rock of Gibralter iirc.

 

[Dobsy]

Is it usual for them to take a month to release a decision?

If it was clear cut you'd think they could do it more quickly, so it suggests to me that it's complicated and there'll probably be some sort of half way house result.

 

[Chris in London]

True but nothing has even leaked out about how the hearing went. The key players at UEFA will have a good idea and have historically shown themselves to be totally incapable of keeping anything under wraps. The usual route has been from someone at UEFA via gossip to our commercial rivals and then from them to the media. I agree about the actual decision. I don't expect anything to leak from CAS until perhaps the last minute after both parties have been briefed.

Not always. Like exams, there are times when you know you aced it, other times when you fucked it up, and more times when you just don’t know. Lots of arbitrators keep their cards very close to their chests. I agree the absence of leaks is consistent with UEFA knowing they’ve had their arses handed to them, but it’s also consistent with them genuinely not knowing how it went.

 

[mike1923]

Is it usual for them to take a month to release a decision?

If it was clear cut you'd think they could do it more quickly, so it suggests to me that it's complicated and there'll probably be some sort of half way house result.

Do they only deal with one case at a time? Perhaps they’re busy deciding on the last few. And the written decisions seem to be pretty lengthy

 

[Chris in London]

Fall out over stud fees from Rock of Gibralter iirc.

Yes.

They were arguing about come. again.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Is it usual for them to take a month to release a decision?

If it was clear cut you'd think they could do it more quickly, so it suggests to me that it's complicated and there'll probably be some sort of half way house result.

Could be wrong but don't they normally take longer, and our case is being fast-tracked.

 

[HelloCity]

Is it usual for them to take a month to release a decision?

If it was clear cut you'd think they could do it more quickly, so it suggests to me that it's complicated and there'll probably be some sort of half way house result.

They have to produce a full document going over the decision with the reasons for it and covering the evidence etc. The decision might even have been roughly known as soon as the hearing finished.

 

[Marvin]

They have to produce a full document going over the decision with the reasons for it and covering the evidence etc. The decision might even have been known as soon as the hearing finished.

If we had irrefutable evidence, as claimed, you'd think City's legal team would know if it hit home or not. If it was a finely balanced point of law then reading it might be awkward. I am more confident now than when I was before, particularly as the media have for the first time been completely silent on the subject.

 

[Big Dave Watson]

It's equally feasible that no decision has actually been made yet, hence the lack of leaks.

Much more likely.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

The lack of any leak actually helps to some degree, as it only underlines our argument that prior to CAS, the Uefa chambers had been compromised.