UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[HelloCity]

It did and Conn is stating it did. He is also stating that we claimed all of the sponsorship was coming from Etihad revenues and is implying that is why we have been found guilty of misleading UEFA.

Not an issue under FFP law.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Has he? I read it that he was inferring wrong doing on both ours and Etihad’s part.

Let's be honest. We've been a bit shifty even if, in terms of FFP, we've stayed within the letter of the rules if not necessarily the spirit. But you could say the same or similar about UEFA. They've applied the letter even when it's against the spirit. And when it suited them, like with PSG's Qatar sponsorship, they played fast and loose.

 

[SilverFox2]

I believe the first objective for City is to have the allegations thrown out and any threat of sanctions removed.

Talk of then attacking FFP and UEFA may be misplaced. Khaldoon has said that City know who is behind the moves to undermine and discredit the Club. Attention could focus on individuals (in the way Platini was forced out) and organisations behind besmirching City. They could be pursued and claims made for damages. It is an alternative view that does not attack UEFA as such but those behind the sustained campaign aganst Manchester City, CFG and our owners.

I'm no lawyer but pursuing individuals may well be the way forward.
We cannot expect fairness from the media or the FA so go for those who have been so full of hubris and arrogance for so long hiding behind the fence of footballs apparent special case.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I think Conn is wrong. In his fit of bile he’s lost the plot. He’s so lost the plot he’s almost finding Etihad guilty of a crime as well. This is the problem. Sports writers trying to deal with a subject that is business / legal related which he doesn’t understand... but it doesn’t stop him offering his jaundiced opinions.

Some of his coverage has been absurd. All presented as if City are already guilty. If he was a credible operator his first question would have been: "Why are City so insistent they have done nothing wrong." I mean they could have made any statement they wanted but City have said publically we have "irrefutable evidence" and the allegations are "false." A credible journalist would think twice about this and adopt a more neutral stance...if only to cover their own backside if City do win their case.
Why would Khaldoon lie knowing if it goes against him his reputation will be destroyed. City are always cautious (sometimes too cautious) about what they say in public, but not this time. Conn is risking his own reputation. I didnt think he was that stupid.

 

[domalino]

He's understood it perfectly from what I can see. He picked up my tweet and followed the link to the same document.

Actually one thing he's got slightly wrong is that he's said we've claimed Etihad sponsorship wasn't subsidised. I don't think we've ever said that per se just that Etihad pay us from their own funds. You could argue that they did but we knew those funds weren't absolutely Etihad's & derived from the EC. Khaldoon is unlikely to have been unaware of that.

He has completely ignored the meaning of it though, as he has no intention whatsoever of pointing out that the Executive Council not being related to Manchester City means there's no way that funding can be construed as owner investment.

 

[Gordyola]

By way of previous reputation, both sides of the fence will pick judges they feel give them the best chance of winning.

Head of AC was a human rights lawyer.

José Narciso da Cunha Rodrigues

 

[Saddleworth2]

He's understood it perfectly from what I can see. He picked up my tweet and followed the link to the same document.

Actually one thing he's got slightly wrong is that he's said we've claimed Etihad sponsorship wasn't subsidised. I don't think we've ever said that per se just that Etihad pay us from their own funds. You could argue that they did but we knew those funds weren't absolutely Etihad's & derived from the EC. Khaldoon is unlikely to have been unaware of that.

But surely it should not concern UEFA that the EC was funding Etihad who utlised some of those funds to pay sponsorship as a normal expense to their business.

 

[nmc]

It did and Conn is stating it did. He is also stating that we claimed all of the sponsorship was coming from Etihad revenues and is implying that is why we have been found guilty of misleading UEFA.

I doesn’t need to come from Etihad revenues ... just Etihad resources. How Etihad raise their capital resources is nothing to do with David Conn or UEFA. No other club is being scrutinised like this. It’s a witch hunt.

 

[Bluewonder]

conn at it again

Appears to have used the information PB dug out too.

 

[John Wayne]

He has completely ignored the meaning of it though, as he has no intention whatsoever of pointing out that the Executive Council not being related to Manchester City means there's no way that funding can be construed as owner investment.

Because he doesn't understand and, more importantly, doesn't want to understand.

 

[Nooks]

Durham sticking up for us on TS at the moment

 

[laserblue]

conn at it again

All Conn's misinterpretation will do is give ammunition for the bitter rag/dipper/younameit knuckleheads who will claim this is 'proof' that City are state funded.

 

[sir baconface]

Will all this mean we won't sign Isco?

Don’t jest mate. If we lose, we’ll be trawling the bargain basement for the likes of Phil the Face and Ashley the Diver to solve our defensive issues. :-(

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

So Arsene Wenger thinks clubs should rely on their "natural" income. Funny how what's natural has changed so many times over the last 50 years. Fortunately noodle partners have always been natural though.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I've jsut got to record (another) podcast so won't be back online until about 7. I'll have a good read of the article then but at least it's out there even if it may not be 100% perfect. I can work from there.

 

[nmc]

Because he doesn't understand and, more importantly, doesn't want to understand.

Too right. Conn like other journalists uses our owner and the Abu Dhabi state interchangeably to suit his agenda. One minute we are owned by Sheikh Mansour and he’s financially doping - the next we are state owned and the Abu Dhabi state is channeling money into us. The fact is we ARE owned by an individual, sponsored by a state owned airline and the state owned airline is funded in part by its government owner. That is not financial doping and that scenario is not covered by FFP. Yet of course.

 

[Cityfan1977]

I am truly sorry to have offended all you lovely english people . My grammer is not the best but I bet that I am as passionet about City as you are. So go lets just make fun off the foreign fan.
I may not have a season ticket but I have been a few time .
And for the record I became a City fan after seeing Dennis Tueart goal at Wembley all these years ago.

 

[maurizio]

I believe that we would be happy if the funds for the sponsorship come from a government vehicle as long as it isn't ADUG? That proves that we are not putting our owner's money secretly into the Etihad deal surely?

 

[domalino]

Can anyone remind me if UEFA found that City and Etihad were not related parties and has a link to it?

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

You know what I've not seen, heard or read one journalist saying we might have a case and it could work in our favour, everyone of them has said we're guilty and that we're the bad apple.

It's outrageous that the press, our press, aren't even trying a little bit to fight our corner.
Are they all utd and arsenal and Liverpool fans?
Are they all racists?
Do they hold a grudge with the middle East?

I find it amazing that they've all stuck the boot in and some with us, their bile and vitriol is shocking and I hope we've made a note and sue the shysters for all they have.

Yes it struck me that they all seem willing to just ignore City's strong denials and support the views of a proven corrupt organisation (UEFA) which is using second-hand versions of emails stolen by a man who is in custody facing 90 charges including fraud and extortion. The Uk media seem to have decided that all City's senior managers are liars and Rui Pinto is just a nice young man. Perhaps the police forces in Portugal, Switzerland, Hungary, Cayman Islands backed by Interpol are all involved in a conspiracy against UEFA.