UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Would anyone mind if I remind people of something I posted a couple of weeks ago?
The top 12 transfer fees of all time, and the top 10 highest paid footballers of all time, include United and Liverpool players.
There is not a single City player in either list.

So contrary to City buying success, it is United and Liverpool buying failure.
 
Would anyone mind if I remind people of something I posted a couple of weeks ago?
The top 12 transfer fees of all time, and the top 10 highest paid footballers of all time, include United and Liverpool players.
There is not a single City player in either list.

So contrary to City buying success, it is United and Liverpool buying failure.

Facts constantly and conveniently ignored and we must never forget the debt those transfers and wages got them into as well.

Don’t worry though, FFP will put a stop to it....
 
Just when you couldn't hate the dippers even more

From the Times

Liverpool convinced they lost out on income because of City
Liverpool want to see Manchester City punished for alleged breaches of Financial Fair Play rules — and the desire has been magnified by their belief that City’s ability to artificially inflate the value of their sponsorship income has enabled them to undercut other Premier League clubs to secure commercial deals.

Liverpool are convinced that they have lost out on several commercial opportunities because City accepted a lower offer from the same companies, an indulgence it has been suggested they can afford because of their access to Abu Dhabi’s sovereign wealth. Uefa is investigating allegations that City disguised investment by the club’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, by representing it as sponsorship from the country’s airline, Etihad. An internal email between City executives obtained by German magazine Der Spiegel regarding a £67.5 million sponsorship for the 2015-16 season states that “£8 million should be funded directly by Etihad and £59.5 million by ADUG”, which is Mansour’s own City holding company. City have denied any wrongdoing and insist the documents have been taken out of context.

That's genuinely hilarious.
 
Just when you couldn't hate the dippers even more

From the Times

Liverpool convinced they lost out on income because of City
Liverpool want to see Manchester City punished for alleged breaches of Financial Fair Play rules — and the desire has been magnified by their belief that City’s ability to artificially inflate the value of their sponsorship income has enabled them to undercut other Premier League clubs to secure commercial deals.

Liverpool are convinced that they have lost out on several commercial opportunities because City accepted a lower offer from the same companies, an indulgence it has been suggested they can afford because of their access to Abu Dhabi’s sovereign wealth. Uefa is investigating allegations that City disguised investment by the club’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, by representing it as sponsorship from the country’s airline, Etihad. An internal email between City executives obtained by German magazine Der Spiegel regarding a £67.5 million sponsorship for the 2015-16 season states that “£8 million should be funded directly by Etihad and £59.5 million by ADUG”, which is Mansour’s own City holding company. City have denied any wrongdoing and insist the documents have been taken out of context.
I'm a bit confused by this, wasn't the Etihad deal £40m a season, meaning any extra would have been obvious to UEFA? Or does £400m over 10 years mean that, some years can be under or over that amount? Regardless of how it works, to almost double it for a single season doesn't seem like something the club would even attempt to do as far as the Etihad sponsorship goes.

Either way, we already passed the fair market value test, even though Etihad are not a related party, which is the only time it needs to be. I trust that if we did raise it, those at the club were well aware of what our fair market value is. As for the rest of it, they really could be taking figures and comments completely out of context and or from different subjects.

Also hahaha, if a professional journalist wrote "because of City" in his/her headline, they've gone full dipper.

*insert Liverpool failure* "because of City la, deertee oil money grabin bastads, am nor avvin it... it's our rightful peeeeerch la, kings of europe la"
 
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Just when you couldn't hate the dippers even more

From the Times

Liverpool convinced they lost out on income because of City
Liverpool want to see Manchester City punished for alleged breaches of Financial Fair Play rules — and the desire has been magnified by their belief that City’s ability to artificially inflate the value of their sponsorship income has enabled them to undercut other Premier League clubs to secure commercial deals.

Liverpool are convinced that they have lost out on several commercial opportunities because City accepted a lower offer from the same companies, an indulgence it has been suggested they can afford because of their access to Abu Dhabi’s sovereign wealth. Uefa is investigating allegations that City disguised investment by the club’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, by representing it as sponsorship from the country’s airline, Etihad. An internal email between City executives obtained by German magazine Der Spiegel regarding a £67.5 million sponsorship for the 2015-16 season states that “£8 million should be funded directly by Etihad and £59.5 million by ADUG”, which is Mansour’s own City holding company. City have denied any wrongdoing and insist the documents have been taken out of context.

LOL. Fucking state of that. Muppets. Isn’t that how all business works? You give me this at such and such a rate, and I’ll ensure you get access to that. Admittedly there’s more scope for the owners of a country to make promises than the owners of a single multinational, but are they seriously grizzling because our owners have more clout than theirs do? There is always a bigger fish, now get to fuck. Oh, and The Times again. Fucktards
 
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Just when you couldn't hate the dippers even more

From the Times

Liverpool convinced they lost out on income because of City
Liverpool want to see Manchester City punished for alleged breaches of Financial Fair Play rules — and the desire has been magnified by their belief that City’s ability to artificially inflate the value of their sponsorship income has enabled them to undercut other Premier League clubs to secure commercial deals.

Liverpool are convinced that they have lost out on several commercial opportunities because City accepted a lower offer from the same companies, an indulgence it has been suggested they can afford because of their access to Abu Dhabi’s sovereign wealth. Uefa is investigating allegations that City disguised investment by the club’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, by representing it as sponsorship from the country’s airline, Etihad. An internal email between City executives obtained by German magazine Der Spiegel regarding a £67.5 million sponsorship for the 2015-16 season states that “£8 million should be funded directly by Etihad and £59.5 million by ADUG”, which is Mansour’s own City holding company. City have denied any wrongdoing and insist the documents have been taken out of context.

Is there anything that happens anywhere in the world at any time that doesn't result in the scousers becoming victims of something ? They're increasingly a parody of themselves!
 
Just when you couldn't hate the dippers even more

From the Times

Liverpool convinced they lost out on income because of City
Liverpool want to see Manchester City punished for alleged breaches of Financial Fair Play rules — and the desire has been magnified by their belief that City’s ability to artificially inflate the value of their sponsorship income has enabled them to undercut other Premier League clubs to secure commercial deals.

Liverpool are convinced that they have lost out on several commercial opportunities because City accepted a lower offer from the same companies, an indulgence it has been suggested they can afford because of their access to Abu Dhabi’s sovereign wealth. Uefa is investigating allegations that City disguised investment by the club’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, by representing it as sponsorship from the country’s airline, Etihad. An internal email between City executives obtained by German magazine Der Spiegel regarding a £67.5 million sponsorship for the 2015-16 season states that “£8 million should be funded directly by Etihad and £59.5 million by ADUG”, which is Mansour’s own City holding company. City have denied any wrongdoing and insist the documents have been taken out of context.

On planet earth they call this ‘business’.
 
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