UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
Status
Not open for further replies.
Soriano stressed that City were not anti-UEFA but were unhappy with the conduct of the UEFA Investigatory Chamber.

It seems tome that the AC chamber must have ignored City's evidence that the sponsorship agreements were in order. It worries me that CAS will do likewise. There is a lot of prejudice against City's Arab ownership. I think the job the liberal press has done on Man City has meant that it is difficult for City to find a fair trial.

I can understand that the UEFA Investigatory Chamber was deeply hostile but I find it difficult to see how an independent Adjudicatory Chamber discounted City's evidence. They've put a biguous and out of context emails over hard evidence which must include documents the like of which PB and David Conn discussed both of whom concluded that the UAE state covered the Etihad Airways sponsorship, and not Sheikh Mansour just as most City fans have maintained since reading the email hacks.. And if Conn, a hostile opponent thunks that, I struggle to see how the Adjudicatory Chamber reached the conclusion they did. Why should CAS look differently on our irrefutable body of evidence? I realise that there is a procedural angle as well. It is the procedural angle that possibly gives us the best hope because I am not sure that CAS will view things that differently than the UEFA AC. Why should they? They are drawn from the same group of people.

If prominent fascists. or Islamists were to defend itself in a commercial dispute, would they receive a fair trial? I doubt it. That's the problem, City have been characterised as state-owned cheats for years and years.

As I understand it the chamber only listens to evidence given by the UEFA prosecutor and is only allowed to judge the case solely on what he provides. By all accounts we provided a 200 page document in our defence, to this day it remains unopened. It's beyond me why the process doesn't have a representative for the prosecution and the defence but my understanding is it doesn't, it doesn't take a huge leap of faith (given the setup) that we were found guilty.

I thing CAS will only look at the procedural aspect of the case, they will not look at all as to whether the verdict was correct. I'm not sure if CAS use the same group of people as UEFA but even if they do we get to pick one and CAS get to pick one, this gives us a fighting chance of the case being looked at by a more sympathetic group.
 
I don't think the Chief Executive talking in such unequivocal terms, rather than an anonymised club statement, can be completely dismissed.

I fully agree with this. It's almost unknown for any CEO to speak in quite such bullish terms, because he's gone quite some way beyond the outward show of confidence that's usual in business in comparable situations.

It's hard to see why he'd do so unless he (and our legal advisers) fully believe what he's said. If City don't end up with what can be universally seen as a convincing win at the end of the process, then this interview is going to come back to haunt him in a major way. He and the lawyers must know this, so the fact he's gone ahead anyway is very significant IMO.
 
I do.

City are going to court. I don't care who you are and what the case is. The defendant always expresses total vehemence in his case. The only interesting aspect were things he didn't need to say such as the clear distinction drawn between UEFA as a whole and elements in UEFA who are hostile to City.
That worries me a little because I’m of the opinion that could be an indication of a possible agreement somewhere down the line with UEFA. Personally, I’d rather we fight this to the end and if after a proper, legal, transparent process has been followed City are guilty then ‘fair dos’, let’s accept our punishment whatever that may be. If however City are proved innocent then UEFA will be shown to be corrupt and may well collapse, ending their cosy relationships. If we do a deal we become part of football governance’s problem, part of an elite who don’t give a stuff about ambition etc. PSG, CFC and others have taken a path of cosying up - we should fight this to the end, whatever the cost to UEFA. Our reputation is in the gutter already, so if we do a deal at any point the abuse heading our way will increase significantly because we will be perceived as ‘buying a place at the top table’ as well as buying success and, presumably accused of bribing UEFA to avoid a fight. All or nothing for me if we want football to be fair, transparent and open to all.
 
Rob Hawthorne on commentary at the start of the second half last night.

"At a time when it is Manchester City's spending that is under scrutiny, it is Rodri their record buy that have given them the lead"
It's not our spending that is under scrutiny it's our income! Rodri was bought long after the alleged offence took place and at a time we were posting profits far beyond what is expected by FFP.

"it's been a strange maybe even strained atmosphere here, not purely down to the European ban........"
I don't know about you but the (POTENTIAL) ban didn't affect my attitude towards the game last night?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top
  AdBlock Detected
Bluemoon relies on advertising to pay our hosting fees. Please support the site by disabling your ad blocking software to help keep the forum sustainable. Thanks.