UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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Marvin said:
Annual changes in circulation:

Source: https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/nati...ay-print-drop-first-2020-circulation-figures/

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This ignores the digital media which survives by selling advertising . The online trolling of City fans in the papers are very effective at bringing in traffic which drives advertising. I made the mistake yesterday of criticising one paper's comment on Manchester City's 'football fandom' and it quickly became a magnet for Liverpool trolls. It's tempting to defend City fans and the club in their pages but it's counterproductive. Better to ignore them entirely and improve City fans' media content. See for example: https://boltfromtheblue.live/2018/11/18/how-uefa-shifted-the-goalposts-to-shaft-man-city/
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You are looking at a lot of dying businesses here. None of them (except perhaps the Financial Times which has lots of paid online subscribers) can survive on the small digital revenues they generate alone. These days these newspaper readerships represent a tiny section of public opinion. Most people know the content can't be trusted.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
This guy doesn't need me to defend him, he's quite capable of doing that his self, bit he is one of the most vocal City fans defending the club and it's fans publicly on Twitter and in the media via podcasts etc.
He also has good personal reasons to criticise Harris. Not sure I remember reading anything from him being unreasonable about our owners either?

Mental health is a subject not to laugh at no matter who suffers it, that I agree with wholeheartedly but not aware of him doing so in a derogatory way. Just telling a few truths about people.

We need to stick together at the minute.
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Couldn’t agree more.

I just think we are overly sensitive sometimes. As a cancer survivor I wouldn’t get all sensitive if somebody described these so called journalists a cancer. They are evil and can eventually kill their hosts, which is what I believe they are doing to main stream media organisations they work for.

You are correct to say that the references I’ve seen haven’t mocked mental health, more use it as a throw away line to describe and justify the narrative that is peddled.

We have become programmed to call this stuff out, even when it’s taken out of context. When you do that and nobody questions it, freedom of speech (if we had it anyway) dies.
 
Marvin said:
Annual changes in circulation:

Source: https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/nati...ay-print-drop-first-2020-circulation-figures/

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This ignores the digital media which survives by selling advertising . The online trolling of City fans in the papers are very effective at bringing in traffic which drives advertising. I made the mistake yesterday of criticising one paper's comment on Manchester City's 'football fandom' and it quickly became a magnet for Liverpool trolls. It's tempting to defend City fans and the club in their pages but it's counterproductive. Better to ignore them entirely and improve City fans' media content. See for example: https://boltfromtheblue.live/2018/11/18/how-uefa-shifted-the-goalposts-to-shaft-man-city/
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Wow, top 7 all Brexit propaganda machines as well. That neatly describes the racist undertones of the current attacks.
 
JASR said:
His Wikipedia entry on notable cases makes interesting reading:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Pannick,_Baron_Pannick
there are many worthy cases he’s done, spycatcher, springer the opera at bbc, MPs immunity from expenses fiddling, illegality of bozza advice to Queen on Brexit.
But there’s a few listed which raise an eyebrow- Philip green and briefing Saudi on state immunity to torture.

Im sure the media will seize the opportunity to use his Brexit cases as being beholden to an overreaching pan- European entity, with added bonus of ties to ‘dubious’ Middle Eastern country... ah no wait , sorry, he’s on City’s side, not UEFA... I’m sure the irony will be missed by any media mudslinging against him.
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He also previously represented City against Joe Royle regarding an argument about the construction of Royle’s employment contract in relation to compensation for early termination of that fixed-term contract, essentially in terms of whether City were in the PL or the Championship at the point they sacked him. Just read the Judgment which was quite interesting.

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5a8ff7a660d03e7f57eb0cab

When you read a Judgment like that it reminds one that in terms of mental reasoning, CoA Judges are generally on another planet, as are most of those who regularly appear before them, Pannick very much included. He looks like a class act from where I’m stood.
 
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