UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[KS55]

Maybe it was just in confidence to PB not to the whole group - why would he lie though?

Dont think it was in confidence in such a meeting. If it was, PB would not have told us. It was a deliberate ploy to get it out there.

 

[KS55]

If we win it makes us very popular with a lot of other clubs imho, its highly likely that Leicester will have a second chance in the CL, same with Atalanta (perhaps finishing ahead of Roma again), RB Leipzig etc, lets hope they see us as allies down the line ?

There's nothing to stop us when the time is ripe getting together with other excluded clubs and developing a strategy to beat the cartel. That's if we really want to rather than joining the 'elite'.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Yes, but it was a joint ECA and uefa plan.

From memory City at least publicly were against it, even though we were named as One of the stakeholder clubs?

Maybe some fall out from that see's us in the situation we find ourselves now?

Remember Khaldoon saying that this wasn't just an attack on Manchester City but an attack on the PL, last summer. I could never figure that out, but was he taking about an expanded CL, basically a super league, that would destroy the PL financially as it is.

well the idea was for more matches in an expanded and more protected CL, with promotion/relegation with exemptions for big teams, with matches on weekends shunting domestic matches to midweek, which seems to be the crux of the problem. Hence the Copenhagen proposal, EL2 and other ideas being bandied about.

 

[KS55]

I’m sceptical about the narrative on here that we are saving football like some knight in shining armour.
I think we want in, and this is just the latest and most serious barrier that has been put up against us.
Win this, and we just carry on. Fuck everybody else, I didn’t hear any of these “small” clubs or countries sticking up for us.

The dilemma neatly put. Do we look after ourselves only and try to join the cosy circle or do we fight for a fairer europe? I know what we should do morally, but this is business after all. I would be very upset if we abandoned the rest and joined the circle. I would still support City on the field, but hate the club's values.

 

[KS55]

To add to my previous post, how could we fight this battle and then accept the cartel's embrace? Never, never, never.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

The dilemma neatly put. Do we look after ourselves only and try to join the cosy circle or do we fight for a fairer europe? I know what we should do morally, but this is business after all. I would be very upset if we abandoned the rest and joined the circle. I would still support City on the field, but hate the club's values.

We fight, eliminate our rivals, entice the rest of Europe and create a cosy circle around us instead ;).

 

[JGL07]

I don’t think that there is a pups chance of the G14 proposal ever being adopted by UEFA. The extra matches involved would destroy the Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, the Bundesliga, etc.

However if the City appeal helps to wreck UEFA, the Cartel will move quickly with a breakaway League including the history clubs but excluding the ‘upstarts’.

Hence City are trying not to destroy UEFA in the process of winning the appeal.

 

[blueju]

Of course you are right.

People react to FFP, and especially the targeting of MCFC, because it's presented as just when it obviously isn't. I can understand UEFA's FFP propaganda but what should irritate a lot of football fans is that the media take it all onboard without question. There are of course one or two exceptions but by and large they are slavish in respect to authority.

City are just trying to protect themselves. That's been the case since day 1.

The media are fully behind it because the majority are slavish drooling fanboys that probably got into the sports pages to get close to their glory boy club. They’ve cried and screamed over the past decade whilst constantly trying to undermine us and this really is their last throw of the dice.fuck them all

 

[KS55]

We fight, eliminate our rivals, entice the rest of Europe and create a cosy circle around us instead ;).

A pan european championship that embraces all those excluded. Scandanavia, Portugal, Hungary, Czech republic, Slovakia, Poland, ex Yugo states, ex Soviet states, Holland, Belgium, Scotland, Wales, Ireland etc etc.
Whats wrong with Lokeren vs Ajax, Wolves vs Honved (remember?), Red Star Belgrade vs Dukla Prague, City vs Poznan?

 

[JGL07]

A pan european championship that embraces all those excluded. Scandanavia, Portugal, Hungary, Czech republic, Slovakia, Poland, ex Yugo states, ex Soviet states, Holland, Belgium, Scotland, Wales, Ireland etc etc.
Whats wrong with Lokeren vs Ajax, Wolves vs Honved (remember?), Red Star Belgrade vs Dukla Prague, City vs Poznan?

It sounds remarkably like the current Europa League with added City (and minus United).

At least it wouldn’t be played on a bloody Thursday night!