UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[GaudinoMotors]

So banned from the PL and UEFA.
Season tkts should be cheaper next season.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

You're talking shite, your club don't welcome competition at all, you might personally, but you're not the club.

Gill is as bent as could possibly be as far as we're concerned, and has never hid it (apart from to you). He is the epitome of "conflict of interest" in football.

Correct.

 

[cleavers]

Ferguson said over and over again he welcomed new challengers

Not in his lifetime though.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

There were 49 minutes between the Uefa announcement and City's very concise response.

It is clear to me that we had the heads-up, prior, and our legal experts had a prepared statement ready to go.

Make no mistake, as soon as we stated the emails were hacked and out of context, this was an admission the stolen material was legit.

Context is all we need in terms of our own arguments and defence.

I'm not really too concerned what comes out in the wash with Uefa, we have the money and resources, which usually trumps in court hearings.

My major worry is from the Premier League, even before The Times claiming 12 other clubs are ready to ask what they are going to do about us.

We have put plenty of noses out of joint with our success, jealousy is rife, as is the lobbying power of our direct rivals and entitled.

I wouldn't put it beyond the spineless body to try and dock us points or strip titles, which is certainly what people will be hysterically demanding.

Qatar and Abu Dhabi could be reluctant bedfellows here, I could see the entire Emirate bringing it's power to bear across European football.

Think for just one second what Emirates sponsors and Qatar, for that matter.

 

[purplenose]

It is a good statement from the club which should give confidence that all will come out in the wash and an end to this pantomime is in sight one way or another.

I do have to seriously question the intelligence of those of our fans who take the view that they do not care and even welcome the prospect of us being kicked out of Europe. Go on exercise your brains for a moment.

Let us imagine UEFA kick us out for even one season. How wonderful it would be having just the three competitions to play in. Except it would be no such thing would it? Can anyone maybe come up with the reason why?? No well I am here to help.

Our manager and players would quite reasonably prefer to go and elsewhere to play in the Champions League because I absolutely guarantee Pep and every single one of the players hold a polar opposite view to those Blues who bleat on about how shite the CL is and unimportant. Missing European competition for even one season would be a major problem to them.

Sure if you dont wish to attend CL games and would prefer the challenge of trying to get double figures against Burton then fine each to their own. Lets however give some thought to those who know full well if we truly want to be on a par with the red twats either end of the east Lancs road then it is a competition we must win, If we want to continue having the likes of Laporte, Bernado, and so on wearing the Blue shirts of City then we must be challenging to win this competition every single season.

Yes UEFA are a bent set of twats no question, given this latest carry on a resumption of booing UEFA is justified but lets keep it real....without European competition even the Sheikh may loose interest, half the squad would not get games and very simply there would be all manner of consequences that could see severe damage done to Manchester City football club.

Whilst I totally agree with the disdain our fans hold UEFA with good reaason I also despair and wonder what the thought process is when concluding it would be just fine were there no CL involvement....What utter bollocks, You have not the sense you were born with.

The unfortunate truth is that if you want to continue to see a team that can and does win derbies, League titles and domestic cups for fun then the CL is like it or not vital to all the good things that have happened over the last decade continuing. So yes by all means call UEFA out, choose not to attend CL matches by all means Though I am sure Pep and the players would prefer you to give them your support, but please stop this fanciful ill thought out bollocks about how City do not need the CL....We do. I am sorry to say we need the CL more than it needs us after all our top players will go elsewhere to play in it should City not be taking part.

 

[OmgOgs]

Correct.

I don't think David is employed by United anymore. If so then Ole would see to it that no clash of interest could happen.
If anything Ole is known for being a man of character and would never want to capitalise on an unfair advantage.

 

[cookster]

There were 49 minutes between the Uefa announcement and City's very concise response.

It is clear to me that we had the heads-up, prior, and our legal experts had a prepared statement ready to go.

Make no mistake, as soon as we stated the emails were hacked and out of context, this was an admission the stolen material was legit.

Context is all we need in terms of our own arguments and defence.

I'm not really too concerned what comes out in the wash with Uefa, we have the money and resources, which usually trumps in court hearings.

My major worry is from the Premier League, even before The Times claiming 12 other clubs are ready to ask what they are going to do about us.

We have put plenty of noses out of joint with our success, jealousy is rife, as is the lobbying power of our direct rivals and entitled.

I wouldn't put it beyond the spineless body to try and dock us points or strip titles, which is certainly what people will be hysterically demanding.

Qatar and Abu Dhabi could be reluctant bedfellows here, I could see the entire Emirate bringing it's power to bear across European football.

Think for just one second what Emirates sponsors and Qatar, for that matter.

Exactly what PL rules have we been alleged to have broken?

 

[citytilllidie]

Where is the investigation into PSG?

Took their punishment last night

 

[Bodicoteblue]

I`m sorry but you are very naive if you think your Club are the bastions of football honesty !!

He also seems to think that his club were ‘lucky’ when the huge money arrived.
Presumably he is referring to the formation of the premier league in 1992 when his beloved rags went hand in hand with sky tv to carve up the market for their own benefit.
20 title wins.
7 between 1902 and 1992 (90 years)
13 between 1992 and 2013 (21 years)
How lucky can you get?

 

[ctid1894]

The press allegations, lies and general witch-hunt against us will never stop until our conduct in regards to FFP is officially investigated and closed by UEFA and City as a club have categorically proven the allegations false.

I have a theory that the club has purposely ‘leaked fake emails’ to the press, playing on their agenda against us, knowing full well they would force UEFA into conducting an official investigation. This gives us the perfect opportunity to end the allegations that we’re subjected to once and for all, it proves the press are happy to report false information without proof or verification, it also proves UEFA are swayed by that false unverified information published by an agenda led media. Hence the very strong legal wording and context of the official club statement tonight.

The only way the clubs confidential emails are available to anyone is through human error, even so I am led to believe that each and every business that the club deals with are forced into full inbound and outbound email encryption, complete with confidentiality contracts for any breach. Even opening an encrypted email from the club requires a strong password, obviously not the customer facing ones before anyone pipes up. The software is penetration tested beyond belief by staff/ethical hackers all over the world, so any vulnerabilities will be quickly closed off.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

All this is a bit like deregulation of a public service. Open up any service to proper competition (City/Chelsea/Spurs - and Leicester) and the nationalised institutions at the top of the tree (Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal) will fight by whatever means to protect their market share. Usually, the nationalised institution runs the new competition off the road and reports them to the regulator on false accusations of non-compliance. In this case, we are the competition and we refuse to be run off the road.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

I don't think David is employed by United anymore. If so then Ole would see to it that no clash of interest could happen.
If anything Ole is known for being a man of character and would never want to capitalise on an unfair advantage.

FFS. You're definitely on the wind up.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

This isn't a Mexican standoff, the club might well lose this, I've no idea either way and I'm pretty sure you don't either.

But there is a power imbalance here, we need to compete and UEFA can stop us, we don't have anything UEFA wants, but they have something we very much want. It might come down to taking UEFA to court, it might mean lengthy legal battles, it might mean something more than a pinch, either way it's not good for us and we won't emerge unscathed, I'm pretty sure of that.

Thanks Corporal Jones.
Hopefully you're not on our legal team.

 

[oakiecokie]

Thanks Corporal Jones.
Hopefully you're not on our legal team.

Or Trigger. ;)

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Is there a legal precedence for this? I mean can a regulatory body instigate an investigation based on illegally obtained information?

Surely all they can access are the accounts of public record, which I'm confident City will have an audit trail for.

If this investigation is proved to be unwarranted der Spiegel will surely cease to exist as a credible investigative entity.

 

[cleavers]

I don't think David is employed by United anymore.

Oh do give it up, he doesn't need to be on their payroll, you said....

Maybe I'm being gullable

No you're just here to take the piss.

 

[Cobwebcat]

It is a good statement from the club which should give confidence that all will come out in the wash and an end to this pantomime is in sight one way or another.

I do have to seriously question the intelligence of those of our fans who take the view that they do not care and even welcome the prospect of us being kicked out of Europe. Go on exercise your brains for a moment.

Let us imagine UEFA kick us out for even one season. How wonderful it would be having just the three competitions to play in. Except it would be no such thing would it? Can anyone maybe come up with the reason why?? No well I am here to help.

Our manager and players would quite reasonably prefer to go and elsewhere to play in the Champions League because I absolutely guarantee Pep and every single one of the players hold a polar opposite view to those Blues who bleat on about how shite the CL is and unimportant. Missing European competition for even one season would be a major problem to them.

Sure if you dont wish to attend CL games and would prefer the challenge of trying to get double figures against Burton then fine each to their own. Lets however give some thought to those who know full well if we truly want to be on a par with the red twats either end of the east Lancs road then it is a competition we must win, If we want to continue having the likes of Laporte, Bernado, and so on wearing the Blue shirts of City then we must be challenging to win this competition every single season.

Yes UEFA are a bent set of twats no question, given this latest carry on a resumption of booing UEFA is justified but lets keep it real....without European competition even the Sheikh may loose interest, half the squad would not get games and very simply there would be all manner of consequences that could see severe damage done to Manchester City football club.

Whilst I totally agree with the disdain our fans hold UEFA with good reaason I also despair and wonder what the thought process is when concluding it would be just fine were there no CL involvement....What utter bollocks, You have not the sense you were born with.

The unfortunate truth is that if you want to continue to see a team that can and does win derbies, League titles and domestic cups for fun then the CL is like it or not vital to all the good things that have happened over the last decade continuing. So yes by all means call UEFA out, choose not to attend CL matches by all means Though I am sure Pep and the players would prefer you to give them your support, but please stop this fanciful ill thought out bollocks about how City do not need the CL....We do. I am sorry to say we need the CL more than it needs us after all our top players will go elsewhere to play in it should City not be taking part.

Absolutely agree with all that....with the exception of the last 16 words. Where was the mass exodus at Chelsea and Arsenal at the end of last season?

People might dislike the CL but it provides cash for us to improve the squad and win the PL. so by saying forget the CL we wil just win the PL...its not that simple.

 

[oakiecokie]

Is there a legal precedence for this? I mean can a regulatory body instigate an investigation based on illegally obtained information?

Surely all they can access are the accounts of public record, which I'm confident City will have an audit trail for.

If this investigation is proved to be unwarranted der Spiegel will surely cease to exist as a credible investigative entity.

Maybe Sheikh Mansour will buy the Company after he`s sued them for $Billions.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Exactly what PL rules have we been alleged to have broken?

None which I can see, but that doesn't stop me being more wary of a jealous Premier League collective of clubs than Uefa.

They do have their own FFP version, so perhaps they hope these hacks demonstrate an infringement of them?

 

[paulchapo]

The timing of this is odd, as is the sudden supposed whining by 12 premier league clubs, though how the times knows this so quickly I have no idea. A sceptic might say as we stand on the verge of a historical quadruple it is being done to derail us.