UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[hihosilva]

We have more chance of David Silva jumping on Vinny's back and winning the Grand National than we have of winning Uefa's Champions' League. They don't want us in, they want us punished for transgressing rules that were made up after we complied with the rules/paid the fines. The whole Uefa/CL set up stinks to the heavens. We get through next week's 2nd leg, and there'll be another hurdle in the quarter finals. Get past that to the semis and as sure as croissants are croissants they'll put in Señor Lahoz to make sure the LotG are applied as Uefa meant them to be applied.

Thats why it would make more pleasurable

 

[chaddblue]

I fuckin love the club statement. It actually made me laugh out loud!

We’re owned by some of the most astute and successful businessmen in the world who will if necessary employ the best lawyers on the planet

That statement screams out we’ve done absolutely nothing wrong and if you dare to fuck with us we will destroy you

 

[cookster]

I could of course be wrong.

;) great way to end a post.

 

[Marvin]

I think the majority view that the investigation marks a new low in relations between City and UEFA may just be way off target. We are all assuming that UEFA are out to do us to appease a baying cartel while we are arming ourselves with writs and the like to give UEFA a working over in the courts.

It might be as well to remember that we have sailed through the FFP assessments ever since 2014, that the first DS revelations appeared last November and that UEFA was as much a target as City because they had conspired with us to circumvent the regulations they had introduced. Infantino refuted the claims while City argued that the claims were based on emails which were obtained illegally and would not comment. There was no conflict between City and UEFA then, but the usual hacks reported that UEFA would take the strongest action if the claims could be proven. This could be the usual nonsense our press prints.

Since then it has emerged that these emails have been produced - maybe even fabricated - by a Potuguese who specialises not only in hacking emails, but also in using them to extort money through blackmail. This charming gentleman had fled to Hungary but only this week found that the Hungarians had agreed to extradite him to Portugal to face trial for these activities. He seems a most unlikely witness to provoke a virtual civil war in club football. In a post on Monday I raised the question of whether he had been foolish enough to try and blackmail City! I wonder now if he has been daft enough to try and blackmail certain UEFA officials as well!

So, UEFA announce an investigation of "reported" FFP breaches, City welcome the process but suggest it will amount to no more than another glance at our accounts, which have already been shown to be "full and complete" and the investigation shows that FFP has succeeded in transforming City into a model of financial propriety. The only wrongdoing is that of a criminal hacker and blackmailer who goes to jail for a very long time and DS has to settle out of court for extensive damage to the reputation of City - and UEFA!

That should deter future troublemakers from dipping into the (murky?!) world football (and UEFA) finance.

That's an optimistic take on things, and why not.

I think football should be more open. The whole of football should be scrutinised, not just the Arab owned clubs.

I don't really have a problem with Der Spiegel pursuing the story. Investigative journalism should be welcomed but not criminality. Freedom of the press is a murky world when you read about the lobby campaigns and disinformation that goes on e.g. Lynton Crosby's offer to take down the Qatar World Cup for payment of £5.5m. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/10/lynton-crosby-2022-qatar-world-cup-ctf-partners

Is it a crime really to create a fantastic football club that is sustainable? I know Utd and Liverpool fans will think otherwise but City should be held out as an example of what considered investment can do for a football club.

Perhaps this is an opportunity for City to go a little way towards clearing our name. Or is it an opportunity for another kicking? What we have to go on is the nature of the accusations in Der Spiegel which show a club looking to maximise in-house sponsorship after Uefa changed the small print. UEFA are going to demand an explanation for the e-mails we have seen. The Etihad one is presumably the easiest to answer as Etihad can presumably demonstrate that they are liable for the sponsorship. They responded publically to that effect after the Der Spiegel allegations. The CAS Gala ruling is interesting, and helpful for City.

 

[manimanc]

We win the champions league and then kick fuck out of the trophy. Simple.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

On the eve of an important League weekend & just b 4 the knockout game next week.

If I'm honest where there's money there's crime & both City & UEFA have been caught with there pants down.

I can see UEFA making these noises now & doing absolutely fuck all.

If anything it will be another fine & 12 month transfer ban

This will be completed in 3 months allowing City to appeal then smash the transfer market throwing 2 fingers at everyone.

I just can't see UEFA taking City on in court as to much baggage on both sides.

Can they throw City out of Europe????

Don't see this happening.

If I'm honest I would love to see our owner fuck them over but can only see us meeting them halfway.

If Something is going to happen & City will be ready with or without the ban.

Let's see what comes out of City.

But meanwhile you will post absolute bollocks re transfer bans. and try stirring up a hornets nest.

 

[asaluttar]

Pity there was no FFP when Fergie started off at the manure.
Spent more than their next five rivals combined till they bought their title finally but thankfully for them nobody thought of curbing their spend for the greater good of football.

 

[LucahArchie10]

For the umpteenth time, this is a FFP investigation. They cannot give us a transfer ban.

Depends where & what investigation leads to??

If they are checking payments to & from our club then yes it may lead to a ban.
If we have paid & inflated sponsorship, spent way beyond our means for the 2nd time UEFA have the right to either ban us from competition, fine & give a transfer ban.

The UEFA Financial Fair Play Regulations(FFP) were established to prevent professional football clubs spending more than they earn in the pursuit of success and in doing so getting into financial problems which might threaten their long-term survival.[1] They were agreed to in principle in September 2009 by the Financial Control Panel of football's governing body in Europe (Union of European Football Associations – UEFA). The regulations provide for sanctions to be taken against clubs who exceed spending, over several seasons, within a set budgetary framework. Implementation of the regulations took place at the outset of the 2011–12 football season.[2] The severest penalty is disqualification from the European competitions.[3] Other penalties included fines, the withholding of prize money, and player transfer bans.

 

[Marvin]

I fuckin love the club statement. It actually made me laugh out loud!

We’re owned by some of the most astute and successful businessmen in the world who will if necessary employ the best lawyers on the planet

That statement screams out we’ve done absolutely nothing wrong and if you dare to fuck with us we will destroy you

That's bravado. We're owned by a royal family who inherited wealth. They maybe astute. Some practises such as email security don't seem particularly astute to me, nor does getting caught over player transfers. Wealthy people aren't always smart you know. What they usually do is employ smart people.

 

[gouldybob]

This is nothing to do with transfers or agents or parents getting inducements.

I know that, I was just stating that the writer of the original post I quoted knows as much about the alleged shenanigans as I do, and that unless he was involved in the alleged shenanagins, either by arranging illicit sponsorship deals or send out the emails then he was talking out of his hat. (amended so as not to offend the moderators)