UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[King KdB of Belgium]

The problem of trying to win the case is going to be the most difficult part of our case JGL07 without destroying UEFA. There are only two ways for that to happen and that is for us to lose this case. If we win this case UEFA would have to seriously look at all of it's laws and rewrite them all. The only other way is for UEFA to back down and say sorry and pay all of our expenses to date. Which also will not happen.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

The problem of trying to win the case is going to be the most difficult part of our case JGL07 without destroying UEFA. There are only two ways for that to happen and that is for us to lose this case. If we win this case UEFA would have to seriously look at all of it's laws and rewrite them all. The only other way is for UEFA to back down and say sorry and pay all of our expenses to date. Which also will not happen.

Or, we win on process which allows for it to be pinned on the IC and AC, which are then reformed/abolished.

We then start our work on targeted individuals/clubs.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

As CAS has released a notification that our case will not be heard until after June. Looks like we will be in for along wait. I do remember quite a few years ago, of one team being suspended from all European Comps. This club put an appeal in, and were allowed to continue in European Comps until the hearing was heard and the result released. However I cannot remember the club involved. It mat have been an Italian club.

 

[KS55]

Or, we win on process which allows for it to be pinned on the IC and AC, which are then reformed/abolished.

We then start our work on targeted individuals/clubs.

Leterme will take a huge kicking, imo.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

I can't believe how squeamish some are, wishing to win the case without destroying UEFA. Give your heads a wobble and when they clear just ask yourselves what it is about UEFA that is so valuable we have to put on the kid gloves before we defend ourselves! Is it the UEFA that comes up with a series of unlawful regulations to screw us? Is it the UEFA that changes these rules because they've had to tell us that we'll pass the test and that can't be allowed to happen? Is it the UEFA that chooses to trust the claims of a criminal to justify reopening a non-existent case against City? Is it the UEFA that wants a two year ban and massive fine second time round? Or is it the UEFA that wants the CL to be reserved for the cartel clubs? Wake up and realise that "UEFA" and "cartel" are synonyms. If City win this case, as I fully expect them to, those officials responsible for FFP and the campaign against City, will either have to go (possibly to jail) or remain in office as emasculated jellyfish. UEFA will learn that it has to abide by the law or be swept away.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I can't believe how squeamish some are, wishing to win the case without destroying UEFA. Give your heads a wobble and when they clear just ask yourselves what it is about UEFA that is so valuable we have to put on the kid gloves before we defend ourselves! Is it the UEFA that comes up with a series of unlawful regulations to screw us? Is it the UEFA that changes these rules because they've had to tell us that we'll pass the test and that can't be allowed to happen? Is it the UEFA that chooses to trust the claims of a criminal to justify reopening a non-existent case against City? Is it the UEFA that wants a two year ban and massive fine second time round? Or is it the UEFA that wants the CL to be reserved for the cartel clubs? Wake up and realise that "UEFA" and "cartel" are synonyms. If City win this case, as I fully expect them to, those officials responsible for FFP and the campaign against City, will either have to go (possibly to jail) or remain in office as emasculated jellyfish. UEFA will learn that it has to abide by the law or be swept away.

Destroy the structure, the people who abused it create a worse version that hurts us even more.

Destroy the people, then the structure can be filled with people who have our interests at heart and the structure then works.

Better the devil you know than the one you don't.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Although annoying UEFA has its definite upsides I just want this done and dusted. Besides, this is an ideal moment to bury bad news.


(bad news for our competitors of course :) )

Please can you be a bit more specific? I genuinely cannot think of one good attribute, or upside of this bent, corrupt, self gratifying organisation, They are crooks - nothing else!

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

If UEFA is destroyed by this then it's actually very little to do with city and everything to do with chickens coming home to roost on a corrupt organisation that's been caught with its pants down. In disputing the ban through CAS and perhaps the courts we are simply following process. If UEFA had followed due process then they would not have backed themselves or us into the corner in which we all find ourselves.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Destroy the structure, the people who abused it create a worse version that hurts us even more.

Destroy the people, then the structure can be filled with people who have our interests at heart and the structure then works.

Better the devil you know than the one you don't.

No they don't. To destroy the people you have also to destroy the structure. The only way to get rid of the old gang is to smash FFP and the whole machinery created to maintain it. There can be no compromise - no-one can simply argue that they want a more palatable cartel to replace this one. What we must have is a governing body which governs within the law, not one which is forever seeking to pervert the law for the benefit of their friends and themselves.

 

[Centurions]

Please can you be a bit more specific? I genuinely cannot think of one good attribute, or upside of this bent, corrupt, self gratifying organisation, They are crooks - nothing else!

There's no comma before the bit you highlighted bud :)