UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Xhavenjoe]

OJ got off and all Johnny Cochrane needed was a pair of shrunken gloves!

I hope the gloves aren't Edersons as they're massive

 

[pavelsrnicek]

Great to see @projectriver on here giving an experienced lawyer’s view on the process and proceedings.

Still find myself a little confused by the whole process so far if only because in effect the main allegation is that we have misstated the source of our sponsorship monies. This in turn would mean that our audited accounts wrongly state this and there are far more serious issues that arise from this.

Unfortunately the whole process isn’t very transparent so we don’t even know with any certainty what City were accused of and subsequently found guilty of.

In any event the final CAS decision will have enormous ramifications for City and united. If we win they face another season out of the champions league and loss of income and bonuses that arise from that. Considering the state of their finances at present that would be a huge problem for them.

So a City win at CAS could have a double whammy, it removes the clouds over our future while putting a major squeeze on united.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

OJ got off and all Johnny Cochrane needed was a pair of shrunken gloves!

Yeah, but he's been guilty ever since and that's not even a partisan view.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I hope the gloves aren't Edersons as they're massive

I believe the Uefa lead investigator is Mark Firman!

 

[slbsn]

This is my query. UEFA say we mislead the auditors and this was not in the spirit of the rules (however bent they may be). We are being charged regarding breach of these rules. I don’t think the law comes into it? I assume CAS are ruling on our actions in respect of these rules not the rules themselves. That would need a court of law.

For this situation law means relevant rules and laws (and CAS does consider laws btw).

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Yeah, but he's been guilty ever since and that's not even a partisan view.

That's my point, guilty or not, City are guilty in the court of public opinion.

OJ took the win even if everyone knew he was a murdering fucker.

 

[slbsn]

I don't quite get how a reduction of the ban can be an option. We're either guilty or not right? If we're guilty and CAS agree we'll get the two year ban, and if not, we get cleared. Unless i'm missing something here? I don't think City stand to gain anything by accepting a one year ban. It's all or nothing.

City likely to ask for a specific consideration of proportionality if their other arguments fail so there is a way in which 2 years can become 1. I think unlikely though

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

That's my point, guilty or not, City are guilty in the court of public opinion.

OJ took the win even if everyone knew he was a murdering fucker.

Yes, but I want us to win because we did nothing wrong, not because we were actually guilty and "got out of dodge"

I don't care what Dippers and rags think, I care if we come out of it with legitimate guilt attached because whilst the media and certain clubs hate us I know plenty of fans of other clubs who think it's a nonsense, but that changes if some actual guilt emerges.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Maybe Project would be kind enough to clarify?

We asked for three pieces of evidence to be submitted after a Uefa deadline imposed?

CAS has subsequently ruled they can be used?

Think they were referred to as A93, 94 and 95?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Yes, but I want us to win because we did nothing wrong, not because we were actually guilty and "got out of dodge"

I don't care what Dippers and rags think, I care if we come out of it with legitimate guilt attached because whilst the media and certain clubs hate us I know plenty of fans of other clubs who think it's a nonsense, but that changes if some actual guilt emerges.

Then I think plenty will end up disappointed?

We may win or lose on technicalities, everything after that is whatever confirmation bias others will place upon the verdict.

I couldn't care less if we have sailed close to the wind, these rules have tried to thwart us at every turn.

I'd be disappointed if we were sloppy enough to have been caught with our hands in the cookie jar, but I won't lose any sleep if fans that were previously in our corner suddenly think worse of us.