UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[crystal_mais]

From the Evans article:

There has been a cloud over City’s spending since a website called Football Leaks revealed a cache of hacked emails that contained damaging allegedly internal communications that appeared to indicate that the club had flouted FFP rules. Uefa have insisted from the start that their evidence is not connected with the illegally-obtained Football Leaks material.

So what have they got?

If they have some docs of ours then - it must be something UEFA have got via a whistleblower or from the analysis they have done on what we submitted or what the accountancy firm submitted -

 

[slbsn]

Also notice that subtle change in tone from "leaked" to "illegally obtained" in respect of the emails

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

He mentioned it a bit back on the radio that it’s our own documentation that Uefa are going to do us on.

Yep I think I might have heard it on radio or a pod or from an article.

Searched back and found this from an Evans Indy article on the 14th Feb:

City believed, rightly, that it would be very difficult to use the Football Leaks information against them. The cache of emails had not been legally obtained. However, the basis for Uefa’s charges did not come from Der Spiegel. It came from information submitted by the club. From the start, the IC were certain they had the evidence they needed.

 

[HelloCity]

Why would we give them information which showed us to be guilty? Especially considering we knew what their intentions were.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

From the Evans article:

There has been a cloud over City’s spending since a website called Football Leaks revealed a cache of hacked emails that contained damaging allegedly internal communications that appeared to indicate that the club had flouted FFP rules. Uefa have insisted from the start that their evidence is not connected with the illegally-obtained Football Leaks material.

So what have they got?

Evans directly contradicts the initial statement from UEFA and public comments by Leterme that their investigation was based on publications in the media (namely Der Spiegel). As far as I know UEFA have never mentioned that their evidence is not connected to illegally-obtained material.

 

[waspish]

Seems absolutely impossible to me

Yep me too but his Scouse mate keeps teeing him up with tit bits! He is convinced that documentation will do us.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

Leterme said two months before investigation started that City could face ban. They always wanted us banned.

how you can even say anything about potential outcome before investigation has even started?

id be surprised if we lose.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

This is the point. A scoping document is integral to every investigation for a number of reasons one of which is to show that it isn't just a "fishing expedition". The fact that we asked for disclosure of the complete file which UEFA confirmed that they had given to us and then, presumably after we asked why there was no scoping document, UEFA produced one carries implications.

Either a) it was a "mistake" which is interesting because they would have to explain such an omission, hinting at incompetence, b) it was deliberately witheld because they didn't want us to see it or c) it didn't exist at the time we asked for it and was created afterwards. b) is suspicious and c) is fraudulent.

I doubt we'd ever be in a position to prove b) or c) but either way, it doesn't look great for UEFA because the best case scenario is serious ineptitude. It also muddies the waters as regards our duty and/or ability to co-operate with the enquiry.

I'll take a guess at C!

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

How does a journo know what evidence UEFA have unless they're still leaking info?

He is still talking to his pal Parry who has the inside track. Parry has been one of his contacts for many years. Evans thinks we are all stupid. Parry was on the IC at the time of the original investigation.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

He mentioned it a bit back on the radio that it’s our own documentation that Uefa are going to do us on.

That's funny. Now you know he's just grasping. Any documents we will have provided them won't implicate ourselves!

Uefa and Evans can't say it is not about the Football Leak documents when the whole premise of reopening a case on us was due to the hack.