UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[MillionMilesAway]

Yeah I read that this morning. The fucking idiot either doesn’t understand the process or is being completely disingenuous.

It is Herbert, after all.

 

[paulchapo]

Even if we lose and are banned we are not cheats. They know it, we know it and deep down the sneering pompous hacks and gobby moronic fans of other clubs know it.

All we did was try and better our club and compete on an even footing denied us for many years until the takeover. Once we could compete we had to then hurdle numerous obstacles put in our way, cooked up and created to stop us from upsetting their cosy little world. Even then those hurdles were constantly being moved to make us fall just as we had started to clear them.

The only cheats here are UEFA and the pompous cartel of clubs they represent, aided and abetted by their propaganda machine the media. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves and may they rot in hell.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I don't see how the leaks to Harris could help the UEFA side. It might allow a bit more mud to be thrown at City, but further breaches of process are not going to help them in any procedural complaint.

Harris won't be able to name his source without ruining his hack rep. Only if specific individuals are removed suddenly from UEFA panels might it be obvious; I'd expect a mass replacement more than on an individual basis.

Is it frustration at failings to make the case? Possible, but if it came out that it was from an 'anti-City' side, that would finish that person's career. I doubt anyone would do that to themselves.

Is it deliberate undermining of their own case? Could be, helps UEFA out of the hole they're in if it all falls down due to timings. Seems a bit drastic though, and risky that it would get rumbled.

Is it someone who just doesn't see the big picture of how it is playing out? I doubt it. People at that level are unlikely to do it.

 

[HelloCity]

I don't see how the leaks to Harris could help the UEFA side. It might allow a bit more mud to be thrown at City, but further breaches of process are not going to help them in any procedural complaint.

Harris won't be able to name his source without ruining his hack rep. Only if specific individuals are removed suddenly from UEFA panels might it be obvious; I'd expect a mass replacement more than on an individual basis.

Is it frustration at failings to make the case? Possible, but if it came out that it was from an 'anti-City' side, that would finish that person's career. I doubt anyone would do that to themselves.

Is it deliberate undermining of their own case? Could be, helps UEFA out of the hole they're in if it all falls down due to timings. Seems a bit drastic though, and risky that it would get rumbled.

Is it someone who just doesn't see the big picture of how it is playing out? I doubt it. People at that level are unlikely to do it.

It makes no sense. It’s like if a jury member kept leaking information to the press about someone on trial. The entire proceedings would collapse.

 

[hammocity]

There is of course another equally damaging scenario. UEFA are cautious about the case and how to proceed and a number of its members Rick Parry et al are breaking rank in their frustration (and anger of not necessarily getting what they want) leaking this crap to the media to put pressure on uefa. The G14 cartel are arseholes but UEFA have legal professionals in place who will know what they are dealing with the potential downsides of their case - most lawyers are ultra cautious and conservative. We sometimes see UEFA as a single entity - I think there may be the possible that they are split over this and very conflicted in respect of the case against us.... we know the G14 have us as guilty and are trying to retrospectively construct a case... if UEFA have any decent lawyers they will be briefing against this and highlighting the dangers.

G14 don’t exist, been replaced by bent fuckers Parry, Gill, Agnelli, Al Khelaifi, etc on UEFA boards, they all have agendas against our Club for various reasons. It’s incredible, the latter is accused of bribery in helping Qatar host the World Cup and other sporting events, (there’s plenty of evidence), Chairman of PSG and obviously at odds with our Owner. Agnelli is probably sucking up to him with his proposals for a revamped Champions League as Italy and France are way behind the Premier League in terms of TV revenue, they want a slice of our pie. PSG have nowhere to go other than winning the poxy French League by 30 points every season. Agnelli’s Juve are in a similar position but other teams in Italy are at least more fashionable and are making small progress to challenge Juve dominance. Agnelli is desperate to keep the status quo.

They want us out of the CL and will employ any tactic to ensure it happens.

 

[jrb]

Who is this separate person unnamed in every article?

A separate person with knowledge of the case said City has provided conflicting answers to some questions to investigators before the case was sent to the UEFA chief judge Jose Narciso da Cunha Rodrigues of Portugal, who also sits at the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

It makes no sense. It’s like if a jury member kept leaking information to the press about someone on trial. The entire proceedings would collapse.

Yes, which is why I doubt it's a committee member.

I can see it being in UEFA's interest to have the whole thing collapse; it's a pretty high-risk strategy though!

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Who is this separate person unnamed in every article?

A separate person with knowledge of the case said City has provided conflicting answers to some questions to investigators before the case was sent to the UEFA chief judge Jose Narciso da Cunha Rodrigues of Portugal, who also sits at the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg.

Not publically known. There have been two leaks about the progress of the case though, and I think this is a reference to the earlier one.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

G14 don’t exist

I think it's just used as shorthand for the cartel clubs.

 

[Grassland Blue]

9 letters when 3 would do.

Ok...

 

[Parisian]

G14 don’t exist, been replaced by bent fuckers Parry, Gill, Agnelli, Al Khelaifi, etc on UEFA boards, they all have agendas against our Club for various reasons. It’s incredible, the latter is accused of bribery in helping Qatar host the World Cup and other sporting events, (there’s plenty of evidence), Chairman of PSG and obviously at odds with our Owner. Agnelli is probably sucking up to him with his proposals for a revamped Champions League as Italy and France are way behind the Premier League in terms of TV revenue, they want a slice of our pie. PSG have nowhere to go other than winning the poxy French League by 30 points every season. Agnelli’s Juve are in a similar position but other teams in Italy are at least more fashionable and are making small progress to challenge Juve dominance. Agnelli is desperate to keep the status quo.

They want us out of the CL and will employ any tactic to ensure it happens.

Yup.
It is PSG calling the shot. UEFA is on our pockets, this is why we are benefiting from all the juicy stuff they have to offer : sanction in 2014 along with City, another investigation from September 2017 to 2019, forced to sell players, great refereeing in CL, Neymar already banned for the first 3 games in next CL.
PSG obviously playing the long game here, trying to convince people they are a victim, while they are in cahoots with UEFA to finally ban City. Proud of the owner playing chess with all of us. As you say, they will employ any tactic to get City, no doubt.

 

[hello]

Or due process and the lack thereof.

This is exactly my interpretation when reading the CFCB regulations, they the (IC) clearly broke article 10, skipped most of 13 and when straight to 17 to squeeze it the before the stature of time limitation which burnt them with psg.

 

[hammocity]

Yup.
It is PSG calling the shot. UEFA is on our pockets, this is why we are benefiting from all the juicy stuff they have to offer : sanction in 2014 along with City, another investigation from September 2017 to 2019, forced to sell players, great refereeing in CL, Neymar already banned for the first 3 games in next CL.
PSG obviously playing the long game here, trying to convince people they are a victim, while they are in cahoots with UEFA to finally ban City. Proud of the owner playing chess with all of us. As you say, they will employ any tactic to get City, no doubt.

Fuck all to do with that, your bent Chairman and owner has been brought on to the UEFA board to help Agnelli with his agenda. Most of what you quote was in the past, your man has only been brought in this year. I expected you to reply with a defensive statement, you won’t admit it but your Chairman is corrupt as fuck.

I did also state they all had agendas against us, I didn’t say you hadn’t been fucked over previously.

 

[blue oli]

Seems like a simple matter to me, The European body need to be seen to do something to maintain a weak regulation that is already broken.

In order to do so they have rushed the process and fallen foul potentially of required standards.

We go to CAS win, we are clean and carry on and UEFA get to claim that they were enforcing FFP but we (like PSG) got off on a technicality - but they will be keeping a close eye on us in future.

Both sides win ! We see this sort of thing in the financial sector every year.

Stand down - nothing to see here

 

[gooner6729]

Yup.
It is PSG calling the shot. UEFA is on our pockets, this is why we are benefiting from all the juicy stuff they have to offer : sanction in 2014 along with City, another investigation from September 2017 to 2019, forced to sell players, great refereeing in CL, Neymar already banned for the first 3 games in next CL.
PSG obviously playing the long game here, trying to convince people they are a victim, while they are in cahoots with UEFA to finally ban City. Proud of the owner playing chess with all of us. As you say, they will employ any tactic to get City, no doubt.

Serious? You have complaints about the Neymar ban and you believe that refereeing is the reason for your club's comical Champions League record?

Then you complain about an investigation where you were let off on a "technicality" .

Are you really surprised supporters of conventional clubs don't take you seriously? I stress conventional because it's not only the elite that looks down on PSG. It's also the ordinary rank and file clubs in France.

 

[SWP's back]

Fuck all to do with that, your bent Chairman and owner has been brought on to the UEFA board to help Agnelli with his agenda. Most of what you quote was in the past, your man has only been brought in this year. I expected you to reply with a defensive statement, you won’t admit it but your Chairman is corrupt as fuck.

I did also state they all had agendas against us, I didn’t say you hadn’t been fucked over previously.

Bollocks

 

[SWP's back]

Serious? You have complaints about the Neymar ban and you believe that refereeing is the reason for your club's comical Champions League record?

Then you complain about an investigation where you were let off on a "technicality" .

Are you really surprised supporters of conventional clubs don't take you seriously? I stress conventional because it's not only the elite that looks down on PSG. It's also the ordinary rank and file clubs in France.

This trolling twat isn’t a city fan @Parisian and fuck knows why he’s still posting in this forum. He’s the Arsenal/Bayern fan that’s as welcome a fart in a lift.

 

[inchy14]

Yeah I read that this morning. The fucking idiot either doesn’t understand the process or is being completely disingenuous.

At least i know now why my dad used to call idiots 'Herberts'!

 

[richards30]

So is this shit or bust for FFP?

 

[nmc]

Serious? You have complaints about the Neymar ban and you believe that refereeing is the reason for your club's comical Champions League record?

Then you complain about an investigation where you were let off on a "technicality" .

Are you really surprised supporters of conventional clubs don't take you seriously? I stress conventional because it's not only the elite that looks down on PSG. It's also the ordinary rank and file clubs in France.

Parisian - I wouldn’t stand for that being lectured by a Juventus supporter on business conduct and morals is a little like King Herod telling you how to raise your kids.