UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[mosssideblue]

Good man - loads of runts on this forum - long may it always be that City are rooted in white dog shit, that black tar which used to bubble up in the streets when it got hot and back entries for playing rallivo and kick-can!!

*Edits - plus the rag and bone man and that person who used to leave bottles of dandelion and burdock and limeade and lemonade on your doorstep like the milkman.

Used to get 10p a bottle returning them.

Life was so simple then...

Thanks for that Tolm, some very fond childhood memories there. Also, dogs chasing cars down the steets

 

[The Future is Blue]

Jeez were you from my street, that's my whole childhood. Haven't heard anyone refer to rallivo since den, let alone spell it.

Sis-par-brick too. Its all rock paper scissors nowadays

We need a thread about growing up in the 60's and 70's.......Penny arrow bars, fruit salads, clackers, chopper bikes, penny round collars, Robinson Crusoe and Banana Splits on the telly....I'll let others go on now!

 

[mayo31]

if you were in stoke in a pub and was asked who do you support and you answered city,what stoke ? , no
Manchester City or Man City ?

If I was in a bar in stoke I would know my life has hit rock bottom.

There is only one City. Everyone knows this

However my response would be City. They would know its City because of my accent

Citeh

 

[Sir peace frog]

If I was in a bar in stoke I would know my life has hit rock bottom.

There is only one City. Everyone knows this

However my response would be City. They would know its City because of my accent

Citeh

isn't middleton Rochdale,so you say city with a cow thumpers accent ?,they will most probably think chesterfield :)

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fucking chesterfield,i was thinking chester haha

 

[DrBlueBob]

Which one is me Al?

 

[WRicko]

What was leaked by UEFA before the original CAS hearing ? I seem to remember a bit of suggesting we where guilt before the investigation was completed but I dont really remember any details of the actual case being leaked beyond what was already known through UEFA statement and Der Speigel and given how little people seem to know and possibly if people knew more they would think we had a stronger case I cannot see / think what or why anything was leaked.

 

[Parisian]

PSG were already accepted by the G14, as they were part of it before being taken over.

Lyon had soon overtaken us in the league and in G14. And you know how vocal Lyon president was about our finances (while begging for our owner to give them some money).

I think now PSG has joined the G14 as well because the club is pushing for the new Champions (Super)League and has terminated QTA which was the crux of our purchasing power.

 

[hihosilva]

Stefan talked in the podcast about how City had until Saturday night to reach a settlement with UEFA. The fact they didn't is a decision that would have been taken with the input of everyone in the corporate hierarchy and our legal team. We're talking about maybe 15-20 incredibly intelligent people agreeing that CAS is a risk worth taking. There is an assumed ultra-confidence about our position.

Ferran states in the interview that Sheikh Mansour has invested everything to the point that it has been audited numerous times. Ferran is staking his own reputation on this challenge. An adverse outcome would inflict huge damage upon his personal reputation. One of the most interesting things he does say is that UEFA put undue emphasis on the emails. I genuinely do start to think that UEFA's case file is essentially just a copy of Der Spiegel. The hack uncovered millions of pages of information but the trail went dry after Pearce's email to Chumillas. The more I think about it, the more I think UEFA have nothing on us that isn't already in the public domain. I'm increasingly confident.

I have also listened to the podcast & Stefan makes a lot of sense. We could probably have agreed with UEFA one year ban but City want to clear there name & end this once & for all.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Far too much is made of a Simon Cliff email that attributed the famous Khaldoon quote about 50 lawyers and £30m in 2014. Its just the sort of off the cuff remark someone may say in the heat of the moment. It's not even necessarily a direct quote.

I am extremely doubtful that City will challenge FFP - that ship sailed many years ago. I agree that subject to the current situation, FFP acts as a hinderance to competition to us because we are now at the top table. It would be disproportionate to challenge FFP as a way to avoid CL bans in 2020 and 2021 especially as no case could be completed before the end of 2022 anyway (realistically). As I have also said, I don't believe City challenged FFP itself at CAS this week. Finally, it has to be a strong argument that after 10 years (perhaps longer) of accepting these rules of UEFA, City will be prevented (estopped) from challenge. For that reason, we have one final appeal in the Swiss courts but its a super long shot and will likely fail.

Thanks projectdriver, that's an opinion I respect (greatly) and is clearly thought out without ascribing motives which seem more obviously located in Old Trafford that the Etihad and more common to a very protectionist school to those at our club.

If our appeal is not upheld, though, FFP may well become a very serious and long lasting obstacle to the club's/group's plans and not simply a way of avoiding a two year CL ban. Nor does it seem that the period since the introduction of FFP is a great obstacle. It is hard to argue that City accepted the regulations, since we were never consulted. I believe it's hard to identify clubs which were. City certainly tried to conform to them but this was because companies will try to avoid bitter, legal disputes if they can and UEFA would almost certainly have banned the club from CL at least until the matter had been decided. City's case would be that we had tried to manage our business within the framework of the rules but that the rules had been used to frustrate our efforts. The rules are anti competitive, apply at all times to all clubs and thus judgement is of wider significance than just to City.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Is it July yet?