UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Correct, "financial doping", a phrase invented by the manager of the first PL Club to take money from a UAE state government owned company, years before City received a penny from there.

Who used to be manager of Monaco ffs!

 

[Shaelumstash]

Come June 2nd if what I think will happen actually occurs then we could all be looking at a ban.

What’s this about, mate?

 

[davek1808]

What’s this about, mate?

Dippers and spuds running amok in Madrid.

 

[laserblue]

What’s this about, mate?

He's implying tongue in cheek that if Liverpool fans start kicking off all English clubs will be banned. Again.

 

[adrianr]

He's implying tongue in cheek that if Liverpool fans start kicking off all English clubs will be banned. Again.

Honestly, as long as no-one got hurt, I'd love it. The fallout from the darling dippers getting us banned from Europe again would be fantastic.

 

[Shaelumstash]

He's implying tongue in cheek that if Liverpool fans start kicking off all English clubs will be banned. Again.

Ohhh ok, sorry, my mistake.

I wonder if all the other English clubs would be so hell bent on us getting banned from Europe for FFP violations if UEFA applied the same logic they did in the 80s and banned all English teams.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

You are completely correct - the circle I can’t square is if this is all about how Etihad make the payments - I.e. they get the money from the state - as a state backed headline - why hasn’t this been cleared up quickly and easily - since it’s an Etihad issue and certainly not illegal what is there to see. Equally why have City submitted a 100 page document when a simple “fuck off” would suffice.

The regulation in question limits investment from owner to a certain amount (as I understand it, the allowable losses level).

Funnelling extra money through an inflated sponsorship through another company owned by the club owner could be a fairly obvious way of getting round the regulation. That's what this hangs on, as I see it - has the owner been funnelling in extra tens of millions a year to make the losses (as they were at the time) less?

(using numbers for effect)
e.g. if club losses were 60M over the 3-year period, and the allowable limit of owner investment was 30M = there's a 30M shortfall.
If a sponsorship is increased by 10M a year, and the owner provides that extra 10M himself, he's investing more than the 30M allowable through a back channel.

If it can be proved, it looks on the face of it to be getting round the regulations. It will depend on the regulation wording.
If it can't be proved, it's difficult to see what action would stand up to legal scrutiny.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

John Aldridge joined Bluemoon and the mods missed him!

To be fair he was probably (very) thinly disguised as Ian Rush.

 

[TonyBookEnd]

Who used to be manager of Monaco ffs!

I see it all over Twitter but what actually is financial doping? Is it some sort of performance enhancing cash injection?

 

[Eds]

Thinking about what Knob Harris asked Pep I wonder how many journalists have asked every Arsenal manager whether or not they received bungs like George Graham. Bear in mind he was actually found guilty of this offence.