UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Fame Monster]

Why is Tebas still being allowed to lie, accusing City of inflating transfer fees and wages, so other European clubs have no choice but to follow?

We come in 18th for our first signing. Kev. Look at how many times Barcelona, Madrid, and the PL European Royalty come in the top 20 most expensive signings/transfers. Tebas has a point about PSG though.

The 100 most expensive football transfers of all time

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.go...ansfers-of-all-time/ikr3oojohla51fh9adq3qkwpu

I think the libel laws in this country have recently become far stricter, requiring a business to show that 'serious financial harm' has been caused by a false statement. Even if we can show he's lying, if we're unable to show that he's caused serious financial harm to us (which would be difficult), we could probably come out of the case looking like we've lost, especially with the atrociously biased standard of reporting in relation to City. Threats of litigation, rather than actual litigation, may be the best way of dealing with him unfortunately.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Two guesses which club this was?

Martin Samuel in his column today, headlined 'Euro elite give Parish a glimpse of contemptible future'

Followed an article by Palace chairman Steve Parish at the weekend (no wonder he is selling)

Palace recently attended the annual meeting of European Leagues, the association of European football leagues, involving 244 clubs from 38 countries in Madrid.

There were also members present from the powerful European Clubs Association in attendance...

Parish: "At the end of a long session, questions were invited and microphones passed around, everyone dutifully waiting their turn - except one ECA attendee, who somewhat symbolically eschewed his microphone and instead walked to the podium to make the following speech.

"He explained his club developed a lot of young players but one year they are out of the Champions League,the next the Europa, and for two years did not manage to qualify at all. His solution was that the rules be changed so his team always qualifies because they must have stability.

"I kid you not, in a room full of instability, worry, risk and jeopardy, this guy wanted to be a special case for ever."

Yep, you guessed it right first time!

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

I'm not as across this as I'd like to be, but isn't the crux of the issue that if ADUG have routed monies into Etihad to pay the sponsorship fees, that in effect is disguised shareholder funding by our owner to MCFC. So even though the amount was accepted as being a fair value, we'd nonetheless misrepresented the source of the funds and are thus guilty of misleading UEFA. And that's what they want to punish us for.

On the other hand, if ADUG merely used contacts within ADEC so that ADEC paid it, then it's not MCFC's shareholder or a party rerlated to it funneling the cash back into MCFC. How Etihad funds its deals and what relationship it, as an Abu Dhabi-owned company, has with an AbuDhabi public authority in terms of the provision of funds are neither here nor there. And Simon Pearce's reference to funding sources being supplied to Etihad by 'His Highness' is almost certainly the Crown Prince and not Mansour.

It was a matter of record in the States in the context of a state aid investigation in (I think) 2013 that ADEC was funding the Etihad sponsorship. And despite the Der Spiegel allegations that ADUG later funded them, the email they actually quoted simply referred to a figure with ADUG's game next to it with respect to the funds Etihad wasn't going to pay direct. In the absence of any further evidence and on its face, that's equally consistent, IMO, with ADUG procuring the funds as with ADUG supplying them.

It's hard to judge absolutely what's happening here because the reporting by clueless football journalists makes it so hard to tell. But this has been my hypothesis - and only if ADEC rather than ADUG has sourced the funds do the presumed allegations stick. If the funds have come from ADEC, that to me would account for why we're so bullish.

As I say, usual disclaimers apply. We could only know for sure what's happening if we had access to other documents that aren't in the public domain. And I'd be happy for this conjecture to be supplemented or corrected by people with different and/or superior insight.

I think you've hit the nail on the head with this.

I never quite considered DS could make such an amateurish mistake as to misinterpret ADEC for ADUG however having read some of the journalistic vitriol and petty insulting nature of some of their outpourings in their pieces they may well have got all excited and done just that.

There are of course also a minefield of procedural and process errors and allegations made by City they are also going to have to find their way through if you read the mission statement below

"UEFA’s mission statement provides that the goal of achieving sound finances will be pursued with fairness, transparency and accountability. The Regulations state that the CFCB shall ensure "the equal treatment of all licensees" when carrying out its responsibilities. The Joint Statement, referenced above, provides that "it will be vital to have uniform standards of equal and non-discriminatory treatment of all football clubs"

Its worthy of note the CAS overturned the AC Milan ban as the Adjudicator’s decision was based on out of date facts. (AC Milan’s finance arrangements had changed dramatically following a takeover by Elliot Advisors (UK) Limited)

If the IC or AC ban us then it will be based on the failure to attain the break even figures from 2014. Clearly this is a ridiculous state of affairs as the situation regarding our finances is another League since then. Should they want to ban us for their inability to investigate properly and from an accusation of hiding some owner investment we are playing a different ballgame surely. Is that not an allegation of financial impropriety or malfeasance? Are they a body that can sanction such alleged acts? If they want to go down that route im sure they will be alleging the accounts are incorrect and again that is a dangerous precedent.

Be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Why is Tebas still being allowed to lie, accusing City of inflating transfer fees and wages, so other European clubs have no choice but to follow?

We come in 18th for our first signing. Kev. Look at how many times Barcelona, Madrid, and the PL European Royalty clubs come in the top 20 most expensive signings/transfers. Tebas(t***!) has a point about PSG though.

The 100 most expensive football transfers of all time

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.go...ansfers-of-all-time/ikr3oojohla51fh9adq3qkwpu

I have posted this recently to the brainless twitter masses and they conveniently ignore the facts, even after being presented with them. EIGHT clubs have registered a more expensive transfer than City ever have.

Yet we are saddled with accusations of “inflating the market”. Yes, it’s all on City that...

 

[Chi-town blues]

Fuck uefa . Welcome European super liga. Offer price money more than uefa championship. Invite mid table teams until qualification later.
Get a better tv deal and two fingers to cartel .

 

[Bilboblue]

Two guesses which club this was?

Martin Samuel in his column today, headlined 'Euro elite give Parish a glimpse of contemptible future'

Followed an article by Palace chairman Steve Parish at the weekend (no wonder he is selling)

Palace recently attended the annual meeting of European Leagues, the association of European football leagues, involving 244 clubs from 38 countries in Madrid.

There were also members present from the powerful European Clubs Association in attendance...

Parish: "At the end of a long session, questions were invited and microphones passed around, everyone dutifully waiting their turn - except one ECA attendee, who somewhat symbolically eschewed his microphone and instead walked to the podium to make the following speech.

"He explained his club developed a lot of young players but one year they are out of the Champions League,the next the Europa, and for two years did not manage to qualify at all. His solution was that the rules be changed so his team always qualifies because they must have stability.

"I kid you not, in a room full of instability, worry, risk and jeopardy, this guy wanted to be a special case for ever."

Yep, you guessed it right first time!

That's absolutely ridiculous. I wonder what sort of reception it got, I'd like to see that video.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Regardless of the outcome, I would love for our owners to tell Uefa to stick their competitions up their arse and finance our own.

It would be a massive earner.

I remember when darts was at a crossroads when the BDO believed they were the premium platform due to history and the Lakeside venue.

Darts is a different business altogether now.

A £150m prize for the winner would certainly concentrate a few minds.

 

[northwichblue]

Two guesses which club this was?

Martin Samuel in his column today, headlined 'Euro elite give Parish a glimpse of contemptible future'

Followed an article by Palace chairman Steve Parish at the weekend (no wonder he is selling)

Palace recently attended the annual meeting of European Leagues, the association of European football leagues, involving 244 clubs from 38 countries in Madrid.

There were also members present from the powerful European Clubs Association in attendance...

Parish: "At the end of a long session, questions were invited and microphones passed around, everyone dutifully waiting their turn - except one ECA attendee, who somewhat symbolically eschewed his microphone and instead walked to the podium to make the following speech.

"He explained his club developed a lot of young players but one year they are out of the Champions League,the next the Europa, and for two years did not manage to qualify at all. His solution was that the rules be changed so his team always qualifies because they must have stability.

"I kid you not, in a room full of instability, worry, risk and jeopardy, this guy wanted to be a special case for ever."

Yep, you guessed it right first time!

Who was it

 

[davek1808]

Who was it

Ajax if I had to guess.

 

[Fame Monster]

United surely.