UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Kenward Garg]

Lots of people getting worked up about a nothing article. The majority of the media has ignored it because they see what it is - rehashed old news. Far more column inches on Ole's current woes - I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the popcorn while that pans out. Looking forward to next Wednesday as well.

“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”

Napoleon Bonaparte

 

[Kenward Garg]

The full force of our owners Lawyers would be that something more solid.

From what I’ve read, albeit, very little: City could “ruin” UEFA if it ever came to court.

 

[Rolee]

For anyone sensible who doesn't want to click on that crap:-



The full article is here:-

http://web.archive.org/web/20200123...accounting-sponsorships-uefa-champions-league

It takes a few seconds extra to load the website. Always use DumpTheGuardian instead of linking directly to them.

https://theguardian.fivefilters.org/how-to-share/#howto

What has been revealed in this article that wasn't previously known?

 

[Kenward Garg]

I left Tom Morgan the links to the real story and City's refusal to deal this time. Of course, he and the rest of the Telegraph journalists (or any other news organisation) won't even try to reveal the truth.

If you’d like to, there’s a discussion about MCFC and FFP with Colin Savage. He explained it all years ago:

 

[jaiguruKun]

He's a City fan. Then we are taken over. Now he reports shite about our club, and that is based upon where our owners are from. Maybe I am wrong, I thought he was a City fan, I cannot see ANY other reason for him hating our/his club.

I don't think he hates City, I've read his book and actually quite enjoyed it although it was critical of the club in parts it was as part of a critique of football in general.

 

[Centurions]

What has been revealed in this article that wasn't previously known?

Absolutely nothing, he's used this supposed upcoming meeting to regurgitate his previous crap. It's literally a copy & paste job, I wonder if his bosses will notice or care?

 

[Kenward Garg]

Of course that might be another explanantion for why this story about us has appeared now. You'd think a paper as fearless and The Guardian would be all over the hacking story wouldn't you? Yet not a peep.

I’ve read they lost their “bottle” after the Snowden leaks and instead of exposing the corruption of the secret services; they decided to work with them instead, by being their mouthpiece.

 

[Rolee]

Absolutely nothing, he's used this supposed upcoming meeting to regurgitate his previous crap. It's literally a copy & paste job, I wonder if his bosses will notice or care?

That's what I thought but then his use of the word 'exclusive' has me doubting myself.

 

[Norbiton]

Absolutely nothing, he's used this supposed upcoming meeting to regurgitate his previous crap. It's literally a copy & paste job, I wonder if his bosses will notice or care?

We didn't show PwC paper bank statements at a meeting (they forgot to repeat their request) and the copy of one of the sponsorship deals they saw wasn't signed. Should have been a five year ban obviously

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I’ve read they lost their “bottle” after the Snowden leaks and instead of exposing the corruption of the secret services; they decided to work with them instead, by being their mouthpiece.

And they're also the mouthpiece of certain agents. Agents who might have been behind the Football Leaks hacks.

 

[JRockBlues]

I’ve read they lost their “bottle” after the Snowden leaks and instead of exposing the corruption of the secret services; they decided to work with them instead, by being their mouthpiece.

I've just finished reading The Snowden Files by Luke Harding. A little eye-opening on this score to be fair. Unlike the US, there is no freedom of the press guarantee in this country.

 

[Marvin]

The point to be made on FFP is that it is not a neutral regulatory device that City flouted. It was a net designed to catch a prey.

Look at Man Utd at the moment. They are faced with buying their way out of trouble and back into the Champions League just when their revenues are falling, and what did the Premier League do in the Summer? They quietly cancelled their rule limiting the amount that a club can add to their wage bill when their revenues are flat or declining. The rules are designed to favour 'them'. The initial rules were drafted in consultation with Europe's leading clubs and their officials and ex-officials sit on their licensing committees. It's an open goal for any journalist but they are not going to write the story because the bigger splash for them is the cheating foreigner.

We'll do very well if we escape from this but if we do there will be no going back.

 

[bluederby]

I thought we had already been found guilty in the lower chamber the upper chamber is supposed to pass punishment on us not look at the evidence the lower chamber chose to ignore in there haste to punish is before the 5 year deadline

 

[citizen_maine]

That's what I thought but then his use of the word 'exclusive' has me doubting myself.

Well, it excludes quite a lot of truth

 

[nmc]

I thought we had already been found guilty in the lower chamber the upper chamber is supposed to pass punishment on us not look at the evidence the lower chamber chose to ignore in there haste to punish is before the 5 year deadline

I think it really is a shambles of a process.

 

[dickie davies]

I thought we had already been found guilty in the lower chamber the upper chamber is supposed to pass punishment on us not look at the evidence the lower chamber chose to ignore in there haste to punish is before the 5 year deadline

I don't think we've been found guilty The lower chamber referred us to the upper chamber as they believe we have a case to answer.
This is why it's taking so long as there is no real evidence. They had run out of time so had to refer us to the upper chamber. It's why the club said the process hadn't been followed

 

[FrankSwift1]

I don't think we've been found guilty The lower chamber referred us to the upper chamber as they believe we have a case to answer.
This is why it's taking so long as there is no real evidence. They had run out of time so had to refer us to the upper chamber. It's why the club said the process hadn't been followed

Does anyone know if they could/can produce new evidence against us? or will the upper chamber only consider evidence that was submitted when the case was sent to them?

So basically can they spend this time trying build a stronger case against us?

 

[davek1808]

Does anyone know if they could/can produce new evidence against us? or will the upper chamber only consider evidence that was submitted when the case was sent to them?

So basically can they spend this time trying build a stronger case against us?

Fucking uefa isn't it they make it up as they go the bent bastards.

 

[dickie davies]

Does anyone know if they could/can produce new evidence against us? or will the upper chamber only consider evidence that was submitted when the case was sent to them?

So basically can they spend this time trying build a stronger case against us?

It's a question I would like to know the answer to as well. it was my major concern when we were referred up, in that It gives more time for the prosecution to assemble a case
I don't think UEFA have anything concrete as the case would have been heard and judgement passed instead of this waiting around. All the media were reporting the imminent announcement of us being excluded from next season's champions league, yet nothing

 

[chaddblue]

It's a question I would like to know the answer to, as it was my major concern when we were referred up, in that It gives more time for the prosecution

It gave more time for the defence as well... and I'm pretty confident our lawyers will be more expensive and better than theirs. UEFA will have multiple investigations going on at any time. We have one for our law people to concentrate on