UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[cheekybids]

It gave more time for the defence as well... and I'm pretty confident our lawyers will be more expensive and better than theirs. UEFA will have multiple investigations going on at any time. We have one for our law people to concentrate on

tbf we’ve been defending about 20 cases from all organisations. Hopefully we also keeping our attack dog (lawyers) ready for the Dippers.

 

[goldcoastblue]

If you’d like to, there’s a discussion about MCFC and FFP with Colin Savage. He explained it all years ago:

Jesus, hide that behind a spoiler or something. My kids just shit themselves. Only joking colin.

 

[Cookieproof]

What would you be selling?

Contaminated meat and black market football tickets.

 

[Kenward Garg]

And they're also the mouthpiece of certain agents. Agents who might have been behind the Football Leaks hacks.

Aye. I was aware of that when I read Football is fixed. What’s incredible is how little is known about football in the shadows.

Spoke to a friend a couple of days ago in respect to the LFC hacking scandal. He’d never even heard of it...

 

[ganganvince]

Contaminated meat and black market football tickets.

You are Louis Edwards and I claim my £5

 

[northendenton]

Aye. I was aware of that when I read Football is fixed. What’s incredible is how little is known about football in the shadows.

Spoke to a friend a couple of days ago in respect to the LFC hacking scandal. He’d never even heard of it...

I have mentioned this to a few of the guys in my local and not one of them knew what I was on about

 

[waspish]

I have mentioned this to a few of the guys in my local and not one of them knew what I was on about

Yep unless sky have it on loop or the sun have a back page spread no one will know about it.

 

[Kenward Garg]

I have mentioned this to a few of the guys in my local and not one of them knew what I was on about

Ha! It’s nuts. You’d think there was a conspiracy to damage the reputation of a certain club and the inverse for another.

 

[GBrannan]

The point to be made on FFP is that it is not a neutral regulatory device that City flouted. It was a net designed to catch a prey.

Look at Man Utd at the moment. They are faced with buying their way out of trouble and back into the Champions League just when their revenues are falling, and what did the Premier League do in the Summer? They quietly cancelled their rule limiting the amount that a club can add to their wage bill when their revenues are flat or declining. The rules are designed to favour 'them'. The initial rules were drafted in consultation with Europe's leading clubs and their officials and ex-officials sit on their licensing committees. It's an open goal for any journalist but they are not going to write the story because the bigger splash for them is the cheating foreigner.

We'll do very well if we escape from this but if we do there will be no going back.

This change seemed to be more immediately needed by Arsenal, another of the original architects of wanting FFP, particularly as they thought gate receipts would be king for revenue purposes... but it turned out TV and commercial would allow others to not need to charge £1000+ for season tickets and they got boxed into a position where they couldn’t overhaul their squad because they couldn’t increase revenues enough to increase the wage bill.

Now, as you say, United need this change too with falling revenues (largely tied to TV) and a huge spend needed (both transfers and wages) to stop their fall. It’s one reason why UEFA FFP will probably change soon because those teams don’t want to take a ‘pinch’ and see other undesirables like us stay at the top table.

 

[Marvin]

This change seemed to be more immediately needed by Arsenal, another of the original architects of wanting FFP, particularly as they thought gate receipts would be king for revenue purposes... but it turned out TV and commercial would allow others to not need to charge £1000+ for season tickets and they got boxed into a position where they couldn’t overhaul their squad because they couldn’t increase revenues enough to increase the wage bill.

Now, as you say, United need this change too with falling revenues (largely tied to TV) and a huge spend needed (both transfers and wages) to stop their fall. It’s one reason why UEFA FFP will probably change soon because those teams don’t want to take a ‘pinch’ and see other undesirables like us stay at the top table.

The Premier League have collective bargaining rights and they want a successful Man Utd and Liverpool to sell their broadcasting rights across the globe hence they changed their rules to help Utd.

Real Madrid spend on. Another Brazilian signing in this window. Nothing is really stopping those clubs from spending apart from their bosses profit motive. It does seem that in the Premier League spending has declined significantly recently.

 

[Aytoun]

And I know very few on here will want reminding that the swamp is falling down, The alleged minimum cost to bring the theatre of broken dreams back to anywhere near decency was around 750 million quid.

On top of that they MUST bring their disabled facilities into the 20th century thus reducing the crowd capacity by 8 - 10 thousand.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

 

[Fordyboy46]

So the decision is coming before the end of this month is it?. We'll see.

 

[Fordyboy46]

The Premier League have collective bargaining rights and they want a successful Man Utd and Liverpool to sell their broadcasting rights across the globe hence they changed their rules to help Utd.

Real Madrid spend on. Another Brazilian signing in this window. Nothing is really stopping those clubs from spending apart from their bosses profit motive. It does seem that in the Premier League spending has declined significantly recently.

That Tebas twat is such a hypocritical moaning knob. He's fuming that Barca and Real aren't monopolising the Champions league any more, and that the English clubs are getting stronger. And like you say he thinks nothing of Real spending 200m every summer, and adding still in the winter. Uefa should see right through him, but they won't, they'll pamper to his every word.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

This has been going on for so long that UEFA must have a problem with the nature and reliability of the evidence used in the investigation and with the people actually trying to use it, since at least one of them has a massive conflict of interest. Beyond that the process followed seems to have been borrowed straight from the Queen of Hearts court. But in addition I suspect City have got enough on enough other clubs and UEFA to make any action against City dangerous in the extreme. Back in 2014 part of City's response was to ask UEFA if they were really sure they wanted to take action against City on the grounds specified. Only then did City "take the pinch". Now I suspect our lawyers are reminding UEFA of changes in the rules, blind eyes turned to violations by other clubs, pressure from other clubs for partisan enforcement and all that, before we need mention Snr Tebas and financial fair play in Spain - and asking UEFA if they're sure they' want to defend themselves before CAS. Or maybe they prefer defending themselves in the courts, along with certain football clubs, for participation in a cartel to damage Manchester City.

 

[nmc]

And I know very few on here will want reminding that the swamp is falling down, The alleged minimum cost to bring the theatre of broken dreams back to anywhere near decency was around 750 million quid.

On top of that they MUST bring their disabled facilities into the 20th century thus reducing the crowd capacity by 8 - 10 thousand.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

£750m to revamp the Swamp? You could build a new stadium for that ! Not sure about that number but there’s obviously a big cost that will will further deplete their resources. How have they avoided legislation re disabled facilities for so long?

 

[JRockBlues]

And I know very few on here will want reminding that the swamp is falling down, The alleged minimum cost to bring the theatre of broken dreams back to anywhere near decency was around 750 million quid.

On top of that they MUST bring their disabled facilities into the 20th century thus reducing the crowd capacity by 8 - 10 thousand.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

£750m to revamp the Swamp? You could build a new stadium for that ! Not sure about that number but there’s obviously a big cost that will will further deplete their resources. How have they avoided legislation re disabled facilities for so long?

They've lost the allen key to be able to dismantle some of that meccano. Gonna cost them a bit extra to have a new one specially made.

 

[waspish]

£750m to revamp the Swamp? You could build a new stadium for that ! Not sure about that number but there’s obviously a big cost that will will further deplete their resources. How have they avoided legislation re disabled facilities for so long?

They have avoided it for so long because who they are! Stadium is a shit hole probably thinking how the tax payer can pay for the rebuild or an insurance scam that’s how those k@nts work.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

They have avoided it for so long because who they are! Stadium is a shit hole probably thinking how the tax payer can pay for the rebuild or an insurance scam that’s how those k@nts work.

They could introduce VAR screens whilst they are at it .

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

This has been going on for so long that UEFA must have a problem with the nature and reliability of the evidence used in the investigation and with the people actually trying to use it, since at least one of them has a massive conflict of interest. Beyond that the process followed seems to have been borrowed straight from the Queen of Hearts court. But in addition I suspect City have got enough on enough other clubs and UEFA to make any action against City dangerous in the extreme. Back in 2014 part of City's response was to ask UEFA if they were really sure they wanted to take action against City on the grounds specified. Only then did City "take the pinch". Now I suspect our lawyers are reminding UEFA of changes in the rules, blind eyes turned to violations by other clubs, pressure from other clubs for partisan enforcement and all that, before we need mention Snr Tebas and financial fair play in Spain - and asking UEFA if they're sure they' want to defend themselves before CAS. Or maybe they prefer defending themselves in the courts, along with certain football clubs, for participation in a cartel to damage Manchester City.

Would certainly be brilliant if UEFA misjudged things and brought down all the corrupt at the heart of the issue clubs in the process .

 

[dickie davies]

£750m to revamp the Swamp? You could build a new stadium for that ! Not sure about that number but there’s obviously a big cost that will will further deplete their resources. How have they avoided legislation re disabled facilities for so long?

The same reason as not allocating away supporters the correct % of tickets
We're Man united, we do what we want