UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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Damanino said:
Yeah seems like they timed it just before the Real game, wonder what is the outcome and how we react. Even if they give us a financial punishment and we bend over and accept it it will look really bad on us. Kind of what Pool did with paying 1 million for the hacking. "We didnt do anything but pay for it for you" sounds shit and stupid.

Uefa will give us something as they are under pressure by the "elite clubs" to hit us...

Wonder if they instruct the referee vs Real to "hit" City too.
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Your last sentence goes without saying... UEFA love Franco's team.
 
UEFA are out to fuck us over, by Hook,or Crook.

It has always been a a witch Hunt against us.We did nothing that has not been done before.

Barcelona and Mardid survive on government hand outs.

Fuck UEFA and their shitty soulless competition.

I personally hate it,and everything it stands for.
 
Seen so many speculative articles about when we’ll “discover our fate” that it’s hard not to take them with a pinch of salt now. Mike Keegan might have the ear of UEFA’s top brass, but it seems pretty unlikely that he’s scooped everyone else on this. Still think the longer it goes on, the better it bodes for us.
 
Just a couple of images from SwissRamble (he's been analysing the Hammers) detailing debt and amortisation costs (proxy for transfer spending I think) across the Premier League clubs.

If you were to construct a scorecard based on debt levels, and amortisation costs, wage levels/turnover and all the other useful metrics I think Utd would be high risk, and City low but of course FFP was designed in such a way to target the metrics that City would initially find difficult to deal with.



 
SidJames said:
UEFA are out to fuck us over, by Hook,or Crook.
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Which one will it be?
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Ric said:
Seen so many speculative articles about when we’ll “discover our fate” that it’s hard not to take them with a pinch of salt now. Mike Keegan might have the ear of UEFA’s top brass, but it seems pretty unlikely that he’s scooped everyone else on this. Still think the longer it goes on, the better it bodes for us.
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But it does not conflict with previous stories because he says that City attending a hearing / meeting last month or something to that effect which could well coincide with reports of previous meetings.

would lend credence to the belief that City/UEFA are bargaining? UEFA do seem to have problems coming to a resolution. Internal conflict of interest within UEFA? The facts must be known?
 
Ric said:
Seen so many speculative articles about when we’ll “discover our fate” that it’s hard not to take them with a pinch of salt now. Mike Keegan might have the ear of UEFA’s top brass, but it seems pretty unlikely that he’s scooped everyone else on this. Still think the longer it goes on, the better it bodes for us.
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Wouldn’t be to sure on that Ric,I’m of the opinion the longer it goes on it’s them trying to come up with some sort of shit to hit us with,possibly as mentioned released either the day before we play Real Madrid or the day itself ..
 
deano ou812 said:
Wouldn’t be to sure on that Ric,I’m of the opinion the longer it goes on it’s them trying to come up with some sort of shit to hit us with,possibly as mentioned released either the day before we play Real Madrid or the day itself ..
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Well it's time we fucking grew a pair and smashed the fuckers anyway.
 
deano ou812 said:
Wouldn’t be to sure on that Ric,I’m of the opinion the longer it goes on it’s them trying to come up with some sort of shit to hit us with,possibly as mentioned released either the day before we play Real Madrid or the day itself ..
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Yeah, I guess you can never fully trust UEFA. Think the idea that they’re waiting until the Madrid game is nonsensical though.
 
Marvin said:
But it does not conflict with previous stories because he says that City attending a hearing / meeting last month or something to that effect which could well coincide with reports of previous meetings.

would lend credence to the belief that City/UEFA are bargaining? UEFA do seem to have problems coming to a resolution. Internal conflict of interest within UEFA? The facts must be known?
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UEFA seems to operate like the US Senate. Fuck the facts just draw the conclusion you want ! Unfortunately for UEFA, City have the option of the CAS so UEFA face being dismantled if they get this wrong and if we pursue them in the civil courts they could be financially destroyed too. Individual UEFA big wigs have seen what happened to Napoleon- I bet a few of them are having restless nights. The stakes couldn’t be higher hence the dithering. If UEFA had a case we’d have been hung drawn and quartered by now.
 
Months ago 'the Ahletic' stated that City would not be banned but may face a sanction. That suggested that a recommendation had been made, and yet it goes on. Could speculate that either their information was wrong or City are disputing the sanction.
 
Marvin said:
Months ago 'the Ahletic' stated that City would not be banned but may face a sanction. That suggested that a recommendation had been made, and yet it goes on. Could speculate that either their information was wrong or City are disputing the sanction.
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The Investigatory committee could apply a sanction, but of limited scale - I think 100k euros, from memory.
As far as I know, the only meaning of passing it to the Adjudicatory Committee is that a higher sanction has been recommended.

Nothing on that has changed since.
 
deano ou812 said:
Wouldn’t be to sure on that Ric,I’m of the opinion the longer it goes on it’s them trying to come up with some sort of shit to hit us with, possibly as mentioned released either the day before we play Real Madrid or the day itself ..
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That's just your pessimism kicking in ;)
 
Thing is we broke no rule we found a loop hole in the flawed rules and used it to our advantage plus this got brought up one day before the 5 year cut of which only come to light because of the hacked emails! What I’m more surprised at is that it’s gone on so long Uefa should of just shut it down straight away and they wouldn’t be ending up looking like a bunch of corrupt soft arses who have been manipulated by the history clubs.
 
waspish said:
Thing is we broke no rule we found a loop hole in the flawed rules and used it to our advantage plus this got brought up one day before the 5 year cut of which only come to light because of the hacked emails! What I’m more surprised at is that it’s gone on so long Uefa should of just shut it down straight away and they wouldn’t be ending up looking like a bunch of corrupt soft arses who have been manipulated by the history clubs.
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I agree, in fact irrespective of the verdict there is no guarantee that many of our uefa member enemies will not have details of their corrupt illegal dealings somehow leaked.

This has gone beyond football rules now so my feelings are that retribution may take unusual but effective financial and political toll on certain individuals.
 
waspish said:
Thing is we broke no rule we found a loop hole in the flawed rules and used it to our advantage plus this got brought up one day before the 5 year cut of which only come to light because of the hacked emails! What I’m more surprised at is that it’s gone on so long Uefa should of just shut it down straight away and they wouldn’t be ending up looking like a bunch of corrupt soft arses who have been manipulated by the history clubs.
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Football is now so far removed from 22 blokes kicking a bag of wind between 2 sets of goalposts a 100 yards apart for 90 minutes. We are now into the realms of industrial espionage on a grand scale.
 
waspish said:
Thing is we broke no rule we found a loop hole in the flawed rules and used it to our advantage plus this got brought up one day before the 5 year cut of which only come to light because of the hacked emails! What I’m more surprised at is that it’s gone on so long Uefa should of just shut it down straight away and they wouldn’t be ending up looking like a bunch of corrupt soft arses who have been manipulated by the history clubs.
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I agree with your main point but this wont be the media spin. It will be evil money bags city threatened to keep UEFA embroiled in lengthy costly legal case so UEFA had no choice but to give in. What else could they do? Something needs to be done to save football.. blar blar..
 
FrankSwift1 said:
I agree with your main point but this wont be the media spin. It will be evil money bags city threatened to keep UEFA embroiled in lengthy costly legal case so UEFA had no choice but to give in. What else could they do? Something needs to be done to save football.. blar blar..
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Media will print blog whatever they want mainly sticking the knife into city so not arsed about that! More interested in city clearing out name and sticking to Uefa and those corrupt history clubs.
 
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