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[BlueRockape]

Spot the City transfer in this list of the 15 largest ever transfers.

R Player From To Position Fee
(€ mln) Fee
(£ mln) Year Year of birth Reference
1 Neymar Barcelona Paris Saint-Germain Forward €222 £198 2017 1992 [2][6][7][4][5]
2 Kylian Mbappé Monaco Paris Saint-Germain Forward €135[a] £116 2018 1998 [8]
3 Philippe Coutinho Liverpool Barcelona Midfielder €120[c] £106 2018 1992 [9]
4 Ousmane Dembélé Borussia Dortmund Barcelona Forward €105[d] £97 2017 1997 [10][11][12]
Paul Pogba Juventus Manchester United Midfielder €105[e] £89 2016 1993 [13][14][15][16]
6 Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid Juventus Forward €100[f] £88 2018 1985 [17]
7 Gareth Bale Tottenham Hotspur Real Madrid Forward €100 £86 2013 1989 [18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25]
8 Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United Real Madrid Forward €94 £80 2009 1985 [26][27][28]
9 Gonzalo Higuaín Napoli Juventus Striker €90 £75.3 2016 1987 [29][30][31]
10 Romelu Lukaku Everton Manchester United Striker €85 £75[g] 2017 1993 [32][33][34][35]
11 Virgil van Dijk Southampton Liverpool Defender €84.5 £75 2018 1991 [36]
12 Luis Suárez Liverpool Barcelona Striker €82.3 £65 2014 1987 [37]
13 Lucas Hernandez Atlético Madrid Bayern Munich Defender €80 £70 2019 1996 [38]
13 Kepa Arrizabalaga Athletic Bilbao Chelsea Goalkeeper €80[h] £71.6 2018 1994 [39][40]
14 Zinedine Zidane Juventus Real Madrid Midfielder €77.5 £46.6 2001 1972 [42][43][44]
15 James Rodríguez Monaco Real Madrid Midfielder €76 £63 2014 1991 [45][46][47][48]

Really reinforces his argument!

Interestingly, number 14 happened in 2001. Wonder what Tebas had to say about that at the time.

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[blue b4 the moon]

That’s why Journalists are all shit.

All the info they need to refute Tebas’s claims, and pen a fair and unbiased article, is out there. But it goes doesn't then narrative, and won’t attract the clicks from the Rags, Scouser’s, and Tarquin’s. Better to keep the myth that City are destroying European football.

Even looking at the bigger picture is beyond them. Tebas & his like want a weak English game, make no mistake they want Italy, Germany & Spain at the top & making the money. They I feel only 'put up' with rags/dips.

Taking us down which could effect the money in the English game could very well bite all English clubs on the arse in the years to come. Even if this last statement isn't true its a line they could use to try and actually get everyone together & on the same page.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

Spot the City transfer in this list of the 15 largest ever transfers.

R Player From To Position Fee
(€ mln) Fee
(£ mln) Year Year of birth Reference
1 Neymar Barcelona Paris Saint-Germain Forward €222 £198 2017 1992 [2][6][7][4][5]
2 Kylian Mbappé Monaco Paris Saint-Germain Forward €135[a] £116 2018 1998 [8]
3 Philippe Coutinho Liverpool Barcelona Midfielder €120[c] £106 2018 1992 [9]
4 Ousmane Dembélé Borussia Dortmund Barcelona Forward €105[d] £97 2017 1997 [10][11][12]
Paul Pogba Juventus Manchester United Midfielder €105[e] £89 2016 1993 [13][14][15][16]
6 Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid Juventus Forward €100[f] £88 2018 1985 [17]
7 Gareth Bale Tottenham Hotspur Real Madrid Forward €100 £86 2013 1989 [18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25]
8 Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United Real Madrid Forward €94 £80 2009 1985 [26][27][28]
9 Gonzalo Higuaín Napoli Juventus Striker €90 £75.3 2016 1987 [29][30][31]
10 Romelu Lukaku Everton Manchester United Striker €85 £75[g] 2017 1993 [32][33][34][35]
11 Virgil van Dijk Southampton Liverpool Defender €84.5 £75 2018 1991 [36]
12 Luis Suárez Liverpool Barcelona Striker €82.3 £65 2014 1987 [37]
13 Lucas Hernandez Atlético Madrid Bayern Munich Defender €80 £70 2019 1996 [38]
13 Kepa Arrizabalaga Athletic Bilbao Chelsea Goalkeeper €80[h] £71.6 2018 1994 [39][40]
14 Zinedine Zidane Juventus Real Madrid Midfielder €77.5 £46.6 2001 1972 [42][43][44]
15 James Rodríguez Monaco Real Madrid Midfielder €76 £63 2014 1991 [45][46][47][48]

Really reinforces his argument!

Interestingly, number 14 happened in 2001. Wonder what Tebas had to say about that at the time.

This site has the transfer fees adjusted to as-of today values. Makes for interesting reading ... https://www.totallymoney.com/content/transfer-index/data/ (click on view table then last column twice to sort by value). We come in 12th, 13th, 16th & 18th in the top 25.

This article from Sky links to this table but adds a bit more narrative to it and also gives overall spend since 1992 per club in today's money (spoiler - Liverpool come second again behind Chelsea) ... https://www.skysports.com/football/...sive-premier-league-transfers-in-todays-money

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

This site has the transfer fees adjusted to as-of today values. Makes for interesting reading ... https://www.totallymoney.com/content/transfer-index/data/ (click on view table then last column twice to sort by value). We come in 12th, 13th, 16th & 18th in the top 25.

This article from Sky links to this table but adds a bit more narrative to it and also gives overall spend since 1992 per club in today's money (spoiler - Liverpool come second again behind Chelsea) ... https://www.skysports.com/football/...sive-premier-league-transfers-in-todays-money

Liverpool came second again.

They just never seem to get a break do they

 

[toffee balls]

This would make a great banner

you can carry it.

 

[BlueRockape]

you can carry it.

Hay I only Sugested it ;)

 

[MillionMilesAway]

This site has the transfer fees adjusted to as-of today values. Makes for interesting reading ... https://www.totallymoney.com/content/transfer-index/data/ (click on view table then last column twice to sort by value). We come in 12th, 13th, 16th & 18th in the top 25.

This article from Sky links to this table but adds a bit more narrative to it and also gives overall spend since 1992 per club in today's money (spoiler - Liverpool come second again behind Chelsea) ... https://www.skysports.com/football/...sive-premier-league-transfers-in-todays-money

That's a neat site - takes transfermarkt data and applies a currency exchange. As such, I assume it's taking the fixed euro fee from transfermarkt, and not the variable £ fee that is regularly used by illiterate hacks.

Edit: just checked, and the euro base level is important because it makes 'today's value' in sterling less than purchase price a year ago - the drop in exchange rate has a larger effect that whatever year-on-year multiplier they are using.

 

[sktooblue]

Spot the City transfer in this list of the 15 largest ever transfers.

R Player From To Position Fee
(€ mln) Fee
(£ mln) Year Year of birth Reference
1 Neymar Barcelona Paris Saint-Germain Forward €222 £198 2017 1992 [2][6][7][4][5]
2 Kylian Mbappé Monaco Paris Saint-Germain Forward €135[a] £116 2018 1998 [8]
3 Philippe Coutinho Liverpool Barcelona Midfielder €120[c] £106 2018 1992 [9]
4 Ousmane Dembélé Borussia Dortmund Barcelona Forward €105[d] £97 2017 1997 [10][11][12]
Paul Pogba Juventus Manchester United Midfielder €105[e] £89 2016 1993 [13][14][15][16]
6 Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid Juventus Forward €100[f] £88 2018 1985 [17]
7 Gareth Bale Tottenham Hotspur Real Madrid Forward €100 £86 2013 1989 [18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25]
8 Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United Real Madrid Forward €94 £80 2009 1985 [26][27][28]
9 Gonzalo Higuaín Napoli Juventus Striker €90 £75.3 2016 1987 [29][30][31]
10 Romelu Lukaku Everton Manchester United Striker €85 £75[g] 2017 1993 [32][33][34][35]
11 Virgil van Dijk Southampton Liverpool Defender €84.5 £75 2018 1991 [36]
12 Luis Suárez Liverpool Barcelona Striker €82.3 £65 2014 1987 [37]
13 Lucas Hernandez Atlético Madrid Bayern Munich Defender €80 £70 2019 1996 [38]
13 Kepa Arrizabalaga Athletic Bilbao Chelsea Goalkeeper €80[h] £71.6 2018 1994 [39][40]
14 Zinedine Zidane Juventus Real Madrid Midfielder €77.5 £46.6 2001 1972 [42][43][44]
15 James Rodríguez Monaco Real Madrid Midfielder €76 £63 2014 1991 [45][46][47][48]

In 11 out of those 15 deals, a Spanish side were either the buying or the selling club - absolute hypocrisy but unfortunately too difficult for our investigative press to uncover and expose.
Hypocrisy on all sides!!

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

That's a neat site - takes transfermarkt data and applies a currency exchange. As such, I assume it's taking the fixed euro fee from transfermarkt, and not the variable £ fee that is regularly used by illiterate hacks.

I don't know where transfermarkt get their data but it's probably as close as we're going to get. It takes the avg transfer per player per season and applies that as the 'inflation' from one season to another. This doesn't quite get City out of the blame game as they will just say our bulk buying of players will be pushing up this avg in recent years.

The thing that got me from Tebas (I think it was him) was how he said the 'royalty' clubs were having to force prices up for City and PSG to enable them to compete/stay relevant, then accusing us of causing the inflation in the market.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I don't know where transfermarkt get their data but it's probably as close as we're going to get. It takes the avg transfer per player per season and applies that as the 'inflation' from one season to another. This doesn't quite get City out of the blame game as they will just say our bulk buying of players will be pushing up this avg in recent years.

The thing that got me from Tebas (I think it was him) was how he said the 'royalty' clubs were having to force prices up for City and PSG to enable them to compete/stay relevant, then accusing us of causing the inflation in the market.

Yes, Tebas' comments (as described, I don't think I've seen them) do seem to be a party line to trot out, regardless of truth. The only positions we've really inflated is fullback!

Thanks for the notes on how they have worked out inflation - I hadn't looked too closely.

From what I can tell, Transfermarkt record a fee at the time in euros, which is usually pretty accurate. As it's a German site, it uses the euro as it's base, and the sterling value found on the .co.uk version is essentially a spot rate of that euro value.

20M euros at 1.4 euro:£ is 15M sterling approx
20M euros at 1.2 euro:£ is 17M sterling approx - the spot rate in sterling is higher than the actual transfer fee (the spot rate in euros is obviously unchanged)

Journalists regularly look and quote the current spot value, which is why some costs are quoted too high. If the figures help the hack's storyline, they don't bother to make sure they are right.