UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Canyouseethesky]

Without going into too much detail here, I can't get to grips with why UEFA should pretend to be acting in the best interests of the game by attempting to punish City for the club doing what supporters everywhere wish their own clubs to do, i.e having it's owners putting money into a club in the interests of reaching the game's pinnacle. I am yet to see UEFA taking similar action at lower levels by prosecuting those owners who asset strip their clubs and leave them floundering and on the edge of total collapse. Locally it's Bury and Bolton who are their doldrums and at both clubs their players and background staff are not being paid. I am yet to see UEFA marching in there to sort out the mess but I have the feeling that I will be long gone and dead before they do.

They only care about teams entering UEFA competitions. If Bolton won the FA Cup this year they wouldn't have been allowed enter the Europa league.

There is nothing to stop a trillionaire buying Sunderland and making gigantic losses for 3 years and then qualifying for the CL in a further 3 years once they have stabilise the finances.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Seems so. Do CAS have to accept the case? Just wondering, as there is no sentence to appeal yet.

The case has been passed to the judicial chamber - so there is a case for UEFA to answer. If UEFA failed to respond to our 100 page missive then they will be on dodgey ground. As we all know the case was passed to the judicial chamber to keep UEFA inside their 5 year statute of limitations.

 

[SWP's back]

But surely if we produce a defence to CAS, aren't CAS likely to say 'Defence against What?
We've not received anything from UEFA yet?'

No mate. You can have a case thrown out of court due to procedural errors or lack of evidence before a sentence is passed.

 

[citizen_maine]

Is it just me that thinks this is just more media bollox. We know from past cases that CAS will review both the process and the punishment, so there's no need to go for 'two bites at the cherry'. It also seems a bit hypocritical to accuse them of not following due process then preempt it ourselves? What are we taking to CAS anyway, if no decision has been published or punishment handed out?

 

[blueparrot]

It would have been this summer I think. They’d already decided the punishment before even finishing the ‘investigation’ and they wouldn’t want us in the CL next season with it out there that we were to be banned for the following season. What if we went on to win it after all.

No, don't think so it starts in a few weeks so they wouldn’t want to disrupt it so close and they would know we’d appeal to CAS and get it suspended anyway so it would still be hanging over us through next season . So I don't think they were in any rush to punish us for next season, because if they did and then CAS cleared us UEFA would be wide open to huge compensation claims.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

The case has been passed to the judicial chamber - so there is a case for UEFA to answer. If UEFA failed to respond to our 100 page missive then they will be on dodgey ground. As we all know the case was passed to the judicial chamber to keep UEFA inside their 5 year statute of limitations.

The whole world knows but the whole of the media are quite willing to go along with it in blind support.

One way or another this is going to get tasty. About time too. I for one am glad we are not going along with the view of appeasement to try and be part of the club that will never accept us.

I think it’s time to go for the jugular and start to inflict some collateral damage on those that think they are beyond reproach.

 

[citytilllidie]

All looks so murky.
City have obviously produced a document that is going to take some weeks to read, decipher and comment on.
I'm presuming City would then expect to receive a document of queries for clarification which we would then have to submit.
For UEFA to just ignore all of that and go straight for punishment, reeks of huge injustice. Something the Nazi's would have meted out to French Villagers not too long back

 

[HelloCity]

Is it just me that thinks this is just more media bollox. We know from past cases that CAS will review both the process and the punishment, so there's no need to go for 'two bites at the cherry'. It also seems a bit hypocritical to accuse them of not following due process then preempt it ourselves? What are we taking to CAS anyway, if no decision has been published or punishment handed out?

The corrupt process and lack of evidence.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Is it just me that thinks this is just more media bollox. We know from past cases that CAS will review both the process and the punishment, so there's no need to go for 'two bites at the cherry'. It also seems a bit hypocritical to accuse them of not following due process then preempt it ourselves? What are we taking to CAS anyway, if no decision has been published or punishment handed out?

The point is that everyone is entitled to a fair process. I should imagine that our case will be that because the process followed by UEFA is fundamentally flawed, any verdict reached, whatever that might be, would have been prejuducially arrived at. If we show that to be true, they have no grounds for opining on the question of whether we have broken any rules. It also shows that UEFA were motivated by factors other than an honest search for truth. And that begs a njmber if other, more serious, questions.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Has all of this been confirmed by the club or are we still going of leaks or rumour.