UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[pirate]

Conn has a couple of fans on this thread but clearly the vast majority can't stand this arse licking toady.

I've been thinking of why he is a self-proclaimed City fan but seemingly hates every aspect of Manchester City. Partly I think he is pandering to his left / liberal readership on The Guardian who hate perceived big business (especially one he can label state run) but also I reckon he is trying to ingratiate himself with supporters of the recently deposed 'big' clubs as there are so many of them. Therefore he presents himself as a City fan they can appreciate...happy to support the club winning fuck all, cups for cock-ups and no threat to their clubs. In short, the devious Quisling has decided it will be better for his career and earn him more money by showing his loathing for a successful Manchester City.

think you are showing your own prejudice there.

i am a left leaning guardian reader and i dont hate big business.

i dislike david conn a lot though, cos you know hes a ****

 

[oakiecokie]

As you say we are different.
Only been a City supporter for 70+ years so perhaps I am too set in my ways eh?

You are David Conns dad and I claim my £5.00 prize.

 

[Bandofblues]

this is not going to end good for uefa and they have jumped on the bandwagon of the other clubs who hate us because of the money we have over them, and what they (uefa) have done to manchester city by dragging our name through the mud over old news and leaks from a hacker that they believe to be true is ridiculous, and no court in the land would touch this case and it would be laughed out of court ????

how can you punish somebody (manchester city owners) for running their football in the right way ?? and with zero debt and let the so call big clubs play with ridiculous debts which they have no intention of clearing any day soon ??, some of the so called big clubs ??? are into the tune of £500 million in debt and spending willy nilly because they are members and friends of uefa ?? truly shocking that they are tarnishing the good name of manchester city with other bad owners ?? just look at what they have provided in 10 years of investing in manchester city ?? and a club that now if the owners walked away tomorrow manchester city would still be a very rich club and debt free and would be in very good shape for the future ???

its shocking that uefa and their board members are getting away with murder and dare manchester city question FFP and the rules ?? how can clubs under the uefa FFP rules be aloud to have such high debts and not be punished ?? how can that be financial fair play ?? why are clubs with big debt not answerable to FFP ? clearly being a board member at uefa gives you the power to make it disappear

just read the the rules and not laugh out loud
https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/pro...-licensing-and-financial-fair-play/index.html

funny that the rules changed in 2009 wonder why ????

So which of these do we think apply to us:

Financial Fair Play is considered to have specifically contributed to the turnaround in club football finances by:

• Directly restricting some of the most excessive loss-making clubs, by concluding 28 settlement agreements designed to bring these clubs back to operating at break-even, in many cases featuring specific transfer and wage restrictions;
• Preventing the build-up of debt by requiring the owners or shareholders of more than 50 clubs with smaller losses to raise or inject new capital to cover these losses;
• Disincentivising clubs from delaying payments by applying tough sanctions, including the exclusion from UEFA club competitions;
• Creating an environment that encourages new and continued owner investment, attracted by a properly regulated market;
• Inspiring the introduction of parallel domestic rules, based on the principles of Financial Fair Play and tailored to the specific environment;
• Increasing the public and media attention given to club finances, thereby increasing the accountability of club directors and owners to running clubs in a sustainable way.

...nope, me neither....

 

[SilverFox2]

Wouldn’t life be boring if everyone had exactly the same opinions?

I’ve watched us when we were shite starting with 1962-63 season as a regular match goer, through the great Mercer & Allison years, decades of being shite afterwards and now hoovering up trophies.

I know which era I prefer :)

How true that is, I certainly prefer things as they are but a lifetime sneering at the easy success of others makes me just a little hesitant to fully embrace it.

 

[crazyg]

think you are showing your own prejudice there.

i am a left leaning guardian reader and i dont hate big business.

i dislike david conn a lot though, cos you know hes a ****

I'd have thought by your username that you'd be a right wing Daily Express reader, more into a swashbuckling, rapacious type of living. It just shows how names can be deceptive.
Ah well, I'm one to talk!

;-)

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

I’m not gonna post the link, but Duncan Arseholes seems to think there’s a Memorandum of Understanding in place, which City are parties to, that prevents any club banned from the CL because of FFP violations, from then having recourse to the Courts to challenge that ban. Behind the Times paywall, so I haven’t read it. Anyone with access able to give us a summation.....and, yeh, I know it’s dopey Duncan

 

[Bandofblues]

I’m not gonna post the link, but Duncan Arseholes seems to think there’s a Memorandum of Understanding in place, which City are parties to, that prevents any club banned from the CL because of FFP violations, from then having recourse to the Courts to challenge that ban. Behind the Times paywall, so I haven’t read it. Anyone with access able to give us a summation.....and, yeh, I know it’s dopey Duncan

But surely that would only apply if City thought they had been treated properly and fairly and fully within the rules, not some half assed decision based on speculation and stolen emails which was the rushed through without proper due process in order to meet UEFA's own 5 year statute of limitations?

 

[Ric]

I’m not gonna post the link, but Duncan Arseholes seems to think there’s a Memorandum of Understanding in place, which City are parties to, that prevents any club banned from the CL because of FFP violations, from then having recourse to the Courts to challenge that ban. Behind the Times paywall, so I haven’t read it. Anyone with access able to give us a summation.....and, yeh, I know it’s dopey Duncan

I'm no legal expert, but Castles says that the MOA "commits ECA clubs to 'the explicit exclusion of [using] any State court' to challenge the enforcement of Financial Fair Play regulations". We're not challenging the enforcement of FFP regulations, we're contesting that due process wasn't followed and that evidence was seemingly ignored.

 

[nmc]

I'm no legal expert, but Castles says that the MOA "commits ECA clubs to 'the explicit exclusion of [using] any State court' to challenge the enforcement of Financial Fair Play regulations". We're not challenging the enforcement of FFP regulations, we're contesting that due process wasn't followed and that evidence was seemingly ignored.

MOU’s are only gestures of goodwill and understanding; they are rarely legally binding.

 

[Andrew___K]

MOU’s are only gestures of goodwill and understanding; they are rarely legally binding.