UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[SidJames]

Not so sure if City win that they would want to keep the issue alive by going after everyone. I suspect given the way we've managed things so far and the way our owners are we'd accept the verdict with a smile make a statement and then carry on as normal.

Until the next time UEFA tries to destroy our Club.

Sorry i disagree...............

The time has come to do to them what they tried to do to us.


i agree with the sentiments of those posters that say we have to challenge for the good of the game.Or Football will be pointless.

When the brain dead mouth foamers of other Clubs,being whipped up in to a frenzy by Rag/Scouse journalist sycophants calm the down.They will see this is not just about City,this is about every Club that desires success,and financial backing.Football will be a turn off to major investors.They will not be able to spend to compete with the Rags,Scousers,Madrids of this World.The game will be soulless and dead.This is what G14 wants a cartel of protected established Clubs that can never,ever be usurped.It will be the 80s all over again.

 

[marco]

If this gets anywhere near a real court of law then uefa will cease to be and that's a fact.

well im pretty sure you know the end is the Swiss court but imagine if massive corruption was found and the FBI got involved like with FIFA, nice little stashes of cash in the cayman Islands which have travelled via the US dollar system,,its going to happen ony day and this may be the start FIFA corruption equals UEFA corruption IMO.one day matey we will have our day

 

[kaz7]

Yes I kept on reading Sam Lee's reports that a ban was unlikely to happen. Given that he appeared to be ITK I was fairly relaxed until the bombshell dropped. That is why I am worried now as these positive reports often turn out to be false.

mullock is a journo i trust,he has done a good spread on us today with lots of quote from a senior source ,calm,reassuring,it's not armageddon and we were expecting it,sam has droped out of my top 3,only mullock and samuels left with a mention for the times

 

[mccity]

mullock is a journo i trust,he has done a good spread on us today with lots of quote from a senior source ,calm,reassuring,it's not armageddon and we were expecting it,sam has droped out of my top 3,only mullock and samuels left with a mention for the times

Martin Blackburn tends to be pretty accurate too whenever he pipes up.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Sorry, we do know, it's for serious breaches.

I'm presuming that they've told City but then again, UEFA are coming across (again) as totally inept so perhaps they didn't.

Edit: It's possible that it has been posted on here but the damned thread's moving too fast, we need a summary, preferably stickied to the top of the thread.

Our experts say we're innocent of the charge. But in any court case, certainly in Europe, the party whose decision is being appealed, will have to demonstrate that they followed due process, disclosed the evidence they're relying on to the other side and within the required timescale. I'd rather win on the basis of the evidence than because of UEFA's ineptitude. UEFA's ineptitude and the evidence combined would be preferable.

 

[spiny]

Someone is paying to use twitter bots to attack Man City they are easy to spot! Go on any of the shite articles and look at the responses that twitter account usually has less then 20 followers and haven’t tweeted for months! They’ve been use in elections around the world what is Twitter actually doing to stop this?!

Oh and these bots are usually say cooking the books cheating all the bingo quotes you can think of and this sort of thing as been going on for years to manipulate the sheep.

Clicks are equally as easy to manipulate.

 

[davek1808]

It isnt a fact mate. As much as i wish you were right.

You must be joking with the corruption going on in that organisation.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Excellent post. I think we will be bringing up the issue of UEFA's haste

If we were offered another "pinch" should we not just have accepted it and moved on ? Because the media feeding frenzy I am reading now is unprecedented in sporting history. I have read respected legal commentators stating that we have not only breached regulations but committed actual financial crimes. By doing so they are implicating the club's accountants and auditors in the same strike.

If we were offered a settlement (and that's a big if) could we not simply have accepted unknowingly breaking rules (as in 2014) with a commitment not to do so in the future now the club is on a sounder financial footing?

If it is the case that UEFA wanted us to settle for a fine we are risking the future of the club as we know it on the prospect of a successful CAS appeal. I pray to God that Khaldoon et al know what they are doing.

What you are advocating is a long established approach, known to earlier generations as appeasement. Often doesn't work that well.

 

[Ric]

You must be joking with the corruption going on in that organisation.

No, he’s right. It’s far from being “a fact”.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

You know this Guy seriously might be on to something.

US has been involved in a nasty trade war with China.......................Well at least until a Bio-weapon suddenly appeared that only kills Asians, started seeing off the Chinese,and has been destroying the economy.

You have the US trying to destroy Huawei globally.

Now you have City part Chinese owned being relentlessly attacked in MSM by sycophant journalists with links to 2 United States owned Clubs Rags and Liverpool.

It is possible there is also a political under current to all this shit.

United States is very powerful and targeting Chinese interests globally Hong Kong,Huawei etc

I think it's more of a local spat between Abu Dhabi and Qatar, probably ramped up by some good old racism from the US owners of United and Liverpool who don't like arabs, perhaps for religious reasons. But it is certainly political.

 

[Norbert D]

Got to say I am bored to tears with all this FFP UEFA bollocks. It’s a closed shop, cartel and we obviously didn’t grease enough palms. The media have dictated what “success” looks like for City and we’ve bought it. Unless we win the CL every year we’re shit, if we do win it every year we’ve just bought it anyway and it should have an asterisk against it. Well fuck the lot of them, success is Andy Hinchcliffe giving the reds a high five, it’s our first away win at Villa under Peter Reid, it’s Paul Dickov at Wembley, it’s Micah at Villa, it’s Ageroooooooo ....so fuck them, ban or no ban I want to see more academy players come through, I want City to continue being City whoever wears the blue shirt.

 

[CC1]

I feel your pain pal but why give up on your club now.

I won’t - but the enjoyment is at rock bottom.

 

[CC1]

I care about the CL to the extent that it basically corrupts the domestic competition too. For decades now, being in the CL has given the top teams (including us) such an unfair advantage that it's destroyed the legitimacy of the competition. Imagine if the other domestic leagues had a competition that only four of the clubs were competing in that doubled their income.

good point & the reason for FFP - to keep the to 6 at the top & kick us back where they think we belong

 

[SWP's back]

In this scenario you are describing money laundering. In essence we are using a bank transfer to a sponsor from us to falsely conceal the source of funds for a sponsorship deal. If that’s our defense we are truly buggered.

No it isn’t and you don’t remotely know the meaning of the term money laundering. So it’s probably best you avoid commenting on things you don’t understand.

 

[Len Rum]

But Khaldoon says UEFA ignored our file of evidence which contained incontrovertible proof that we werre innocent. Also we know that the IC made their rec without reading our file and before any auditors report was received.

Fazzakerley.
This statement by Khaldoon is what I've always relied on.
If we lose at CAS then the statement cannot be correct and the Club will have been let down.
I'm not convinced about us 'going after the process' rather than the actual facts surrounding the allegation @MillionMilesAway .
It's the facts of the allegation that are the primary issue.
The process is important but secondary.
What does 'going after the process' even mean?
CAS could decide the process was flawed but find that we were still 'guilty'.
CAS is not a court and the barrier to establishing 'guilt' is lower.
Unless the evidence of our innocence is conclusive CAS could decide UEFA's suspicions are sufficient to rule against us.
As @Damanino has stated, he feels that it's 50/50 at CAS and that has to concern us all.

 

[kaz7]

Any links?

Sounds like bollocks to me!

Don't bother,it's every single news outlet,you could pick anyone,they want us dismantled for god

 

[SidJames]

“financial doping”? What blue ever comes out with phrases like that? Is this Arsene Wenger in disguise? @B\connellblue

I agree,Those are words only our enemies use.

Like reading the word "MASSIVE"..................................shit :-)

 

[i8therags]

Didn't the Dippers break ffp rules a few years back,but as they were not in the CL they could not be investigated? Does that mean if we are banned, can we fill our boots in terms of signing top players. Genuine question as I don't know the rules with regards to all this crap.

 

[1961_vintage]

Let’s all take a big deep breath and let’s enjoy the rest of the season. What happens in summer will happen. I think we will take a 1 year ban and fine. The Premier League will bottle it and we will move forward. It’s now in the open that we are the most hated club in Britain and Europe. But I don't give a flying fuck. I love the club and we will still be a force next season, up the City!

Bullshit post that pal and with a distinct stench of red about it.

 

[aguero93:20]

Don't bother,it's every single news outlet,you could pick anyone,they want us dismantled for god

That bastard is always causing trouble, should be deported back to the middle east.