UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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We should refrain from attacking Conn on the grounds that he's a turncoat. If City are guilty of what he accuses us of, he's perfectly entitled to make criticisms.

On the other hand, when he's a risible fucking idiot trying to push a laughably unconvincing political agenda* and using our club to do so at the expense of factual accuracy, we have every right to criticise. And that's the case right at the moment. He's trying to use the leverage of an undeserved reputation among his peers to gain credibility for the factually inaccurate shit he's currently peddling.

Have a go at him for the latter. If we attack him for supposedly being a City fan and turning against us, it makes us look like a bunch of dickheads.

For the record, I curse that we're his supposed boyhood team. I wish he'd supported Villa, Wednesday, Newcastle or whoever, and then I'd have been spared the welter of crap he's produced about my club to try and substantiate his half-baked outpourings.

But let's make sure that if we knock him, it's on point. It's hard enough to gain credibility in this hostile environment anyway, but if we argue like twats, we compound the difficulty.

* - Not looking for a political argument here, but I happened to vote Remain, would have done so at any point until the end of last month and still believe in my position. But Conn's article the other day referencing Brexit was one of the most moronic things I've ever seen in my life.



Now this is something we can legitimately give him stick for. Today, his Twitter output on this topic has been a joke.

I write as a football fan not a journalist or politician and as such I will attack him for turning on my....and supposedly his club. Whether he is proved right or not is irrelevant to me. He is doing his utmost to help sully the reputation of my club and damage it.

Beyond a joke. In spite of people continually pointing out his glaring error he keeps on repeating it. If he can't even get this right what else has he got wrong?
 
He did support us he wrote a book about it. Any football fan knows you can't just stop supporting a club, it's in your blood. Also any person with a modicum of intelligence knows why ffp was set up so why defend it?

I’ve read his book “Richer Than God” the constant references to FC United got on my nerves but I had to skip the entire chapter which he dedicated to them!
 
Conn has completely lost his head on this, and needs to be advised to take a couple of weeks off to cool down - he's just waffling incoherently now, apparently in some desperate need to seize the narrative on this story, but with less and less to add of genuine value or insight with every additional article he posts.

He's allowed his emotions to stray into his reporting, and someone needs to take his laptop off him before he has a public meltdown over City's compliance (or otherwise) with FFP.

Its painful to watch a grown man behaving like this!

I really hope that City ban him from their stadium and from attending press conferences. Is it true that he claims to be a City fan?!
 
I write as a football fan not a journalist or politician and as such I will attack him for turning on my....and supposedly his club. Whether he is proved right or not is irrelevant to me. He is doing his utmost to help sully the reputation of my club and damage it.

You can do what you want, but if you attack him on that ground rather than on the substance of what he says, you damage the credibility of those City fans who are legitimately attacking the substance of what he says, an altogether more powerful line of attack. I can't stop you, but I think your stance is a little stupid and rather detrimental to those of us who are attempting to go down more productive avenues.
 
Whatever happens with CAS, this is going further through the legal route. Isn't one of the first points of law to be adjudicated on being leaked/hacked info' being admissible, if it is then we are then free to unload/unlock whatever equal info' we have.
 
We should refrain from attacking Conn on the grounds that he's a turncoat. If City are guilty of what he accuses us of, he's perfectly entitled to make criticisms.

On the other hand, when he's a risible fucking idiot trying to push a laughably unconvincing political agenda* and using our club to do so at the expense of factual accuracy, we have every right to criticise. And that's the case right at the moment. He's trying to use the leverage of an undeserved reputation among his peers to gain credibility for the factually inaccurate shit he's currently peddling.

Have a go at him for the latter. If we attack him for supposedly being a City fan and turning against us, it makes us look like a bunch of dickheads.

For the record, I curse that we're his supposed boyhood team. I wish he'd supported Villa, Wednesday, Newcastle or whoever, and then I'd have been spared the welter of crap he's produced about my club to try and substantiate his half-baked outpourings.

But let's make sure that if we knock him, it's on point. It's hard enough to gain credibility in this hostile environment anyway, but if we argue like twats, we compound the difficulty.

* - Not looking for a political argument here, but I happened to vote Remain, would have done so at any point until the end of last month and still believe in my position. But Conn's article the other day referencing Brexit was one of the most moronic things I've ever seen in my life.



Now this is something we can legitimately give him stick for. Today, his Twitter output on this topic has been a joke.

Under what circumstances could we possibly sue UEFA?

Asking as your a Lawyer.
 
Feel a bit down about all of this tonight, and I have been relatively positive since the news broke.

It's a big burden for a football fan to have carry to essentially learn about the ins and outs of commercial deals, bureaucratic organisational bodies & politics just to have it out with people who are uneducated on the subject, and the media, who have already decided we are guilty.

It's sad that our owners are now just dragged through the mud after all they have done for the local area around the stadium, as well as the UK economy quite frankly.

If it was a 'sportswashing' practice it certainly hasn't gone to plan.
 
You can do what you want, but if you attack him on that ground rather than on the substance of what he says, you damage the credibility of those City fans who are legitimately attacking the substance of what he says, an altogether more powerful line of attack. I can't stop you, but I think your stance is a little stupid and rather detrimental to those of us who are attempting to go down more productive avenues.

I will suggest your route is twitter whilst the vast majority on here, dont ever look at it and i dont see any issue in him getting dogs abuse on here because frankly he deserves it.

No blue i know would talk about our club like he does and no blue i know would suck up to the mini rags like he does either.

He can live with the fall out from those choices, especially on the biggest City forum.
 
Puma completely trusts us

Puma coming out like that is so odd.

Really odd.

I can’t fathom why they wouldn’t keep quiet until the end of it. Nobody was attacking them, other than the odd anonymous Twitter handle maybe, they weren’t in the press and weren’t at risk.

They’ve put themselves, in terms of PR, at risk by backing us.


This says to me that they are absolutely sure we’re innocent and it must mean that the club have gone through the evidence with them.

In other news, all staff at City have been told by Soriano that everything stays the same and that we’ll win this 100%. My mate is good mates with one of the ground staff, we get freebies off him some times.
 
If the stuff on Twitter is true this looks increasingly like a repeat of the PSG case with UEFA saying that our sponsorship values are overstated. I thought our sponsorships were broadly in line with those of the other large clubs in the PL and certainly far behind where PSGs ended up. This increasingly looks like a charge brought in anger rather than on the basis of facts. Can’t see how PSG can get waved through and we don’t. The Rags get far more from Chevrolet than we do from Etihad. You can’t buy a Chevrolet car in Europe and the Rags are not in the CL so how can theirs be justified as more valuable than ours? I’m assuming City will have had a number of consultants objectively valuing our sponsorship deals.
Hypothetically speaking, would a £75m sponsorship from a company that can only afford £10m be considered a kosher arrangement?
 
Puma coming out like that is so odd.

Really odd.

I can’t fathom why they wouldn’t keep quiet until the end of it. Nobody was attacking them, other than the odd anonymous Twitter handle maybe, they weren’t in the press and weren’t at risk.

They’ve put themselves, in terms of PR, at risk by backing us.


This says to me that they are absolutely sure we’re innocent and it must mean that the club have gone through the evidence with them.

In other news, all staff at City have been told by Soriano that everything stays the same and that we’ll win this 100%. My mate is good mates with one of the ground staff, we get freebies off him some times.
Why would Puma be informed of this though?

Especially when so much now hinges on nothing leaking out
 
they were also known as the Bank of England, liverpool had littlewoods money which transformed them from a small second division team and the rags wouldn't be in existence without investment. So it was ok all of for them in the past but its not ok for us now!! Seems legit!!

Every single person, even the most staunch dipper, rag or Arsenal fan knows deep down why ffp was created. Chelsea came and crashed their party and they hastily rushed to pull up the drawbridge. During that time we came along and made it. Before Chelsea and ourselves for years the top four remained the same every year. I think only Blackburn and Everton breached it. When we won the league in 2012 we were only the SECOND team outside Arsenal, the rags and Chelsea to win it since it's conception in 1992. That's how stitched up they had it and that's what they want to return to.
 
Puma coming out like that is so odd.

Really odd.

I can’t fathom why they wouldn’t keep quiet until the end of it. Nobody was attacking them, other than the odd anonymous Twitter handle maybe, they weren’t in the press and weren’t at risk.

They’ve put themselves, in terms of PR, at risk by backing us.


This says to me that they are absolutely sure we’re innocent and it must mean that the club have gone through the evidence with them.

In other news, all staff at City have been told by Soriano that everything stays the same and that we’ll win this 100%. My mate is good mates with one of the ground staff, we get freebies off him some times.
Lawnmowers?
 
I will suggest your route is twitter whilst the vast majority on here, dont ever look at it and i dont see any issue in him getting dogs abuse on here because frankly he deserves it.

No blue i know would talk about our club like he does and no blue i know would suck up to the mini rags like he does either.

He can live with the fall out from those choices, especially on the biggest City forum.

All I'd say to that is, at the moment, these pages are open forum for journalists who head back to Twitter with what they see as inflammatory posts with which they can discredit Blues. If I thought we were posting in a genuinely private environment, I'd take a different view.

FWIW, he'd have to have an extraordinary lack of self-awareness not to know that large numbers of Blues think he's a twat and have done for years. :)
 
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