Exeter Blue I am here
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Why is it obvious why our appeal failed at the AC stage? Stefan has written on the “wood for the trees” thread that they (the AC members) are generally well thought of
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UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST
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Why is it obvious why our appeal failed at the AC stage? Stefan has written on the “wood for the trees” thread that they (the AC members) are generally well thought of
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Fair comment .It is our majority owners culture that follows all his investments.
As an investment against all the odds his ADUG team generate profits presumably his original intention.
Why would he change his style?
oakiecokie
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Oi !! Behave.I would tend to agree
inchy14
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Where have you been for the past 6 months? They didn't even bother looking at our 'irrefutable evidence' as far as we're aware!!Why did it fail vs UEFA at the Adjudicatory Chamber then? We don't know the details but we have allowed ourselves to be seen as the villain whilst the likes of Tebas, LFC and MUFC pull all kinds of strings, many leading to their minions in the media. I don't mind being seen as the villain in a sporting contest but we are now going into a legal case to be determined by people who do not go into the court room with a blank slate. They go in there with preconceived ideas of the Sheikh and football regulation.
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We know a lot of them already, they are just unconfirmed. I guess there are a lot of managers, agents, etc who hope to die before all their grubby secrets are confirmedWould absolutely love Uefa’s and Premier league’s secrets to be out one day.
MillionMilesAway
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Why is it obvious why our appeal failed at the AC stage? Stefan has written on the “wood for the trees” thread that they (the AC members) are generally well thought of
I'm with you on this - it's difficult to see what the AC have done, either way, at the moment.
Exeter Blue I am here
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Where have you been for the past 6 months? They didn't even bother looking at our 'irrefutable evidence' as far as we're aware!!
I thought that was the IC not the AC
SilvaisSkyBlue
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I don't think any of that is much to do with the case in question. What went on in 2014 doesn't match what appears to be the substance of the current charge.
'Illegality' strikes me as being a pejorative term; the legal case will almost certainly be against failure of process, and unjustifiable outcome. CAS doesn't have obvious jurisdiction on FFP as a whole.
Disagree, illegal actions are exactly that, illegal, no matter whether actioned by a person and/or an organisation.
Failure of process will be part of the case against UEFA but City are saying UEFA totally ignored their 100% proof of where all monies came from, so in very short terms there is no failure of process, there is total disregard for any process and guilt was already decided upon submission of the charge.
Anyhow, back to work, have a good day mate.
BlueMoonz1977
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No doubt American owners will want a closed tournament of the same participants year after year - no risks and top dollar.
Definitely agree, and it is definitely a war between US and Middle East powers. The US firms such as FSG do not want to have to spend money to retrieve less revenue - hence why these fuckers are one of the clubs pushing not just UEFA but the Premier League to sanction us heavily
That report I took the paragraph from also mentioned that The Raine Group have been hired to find a buyer for Chelsea ! - didnt know that to be honest
I can accept that was the case in respect of the Invetsigatory Chamber whose spokesman seemed to have pre-judged the matter before he had even received City's evidence but the Adjudicatory Chamber. I cannot believe that they did not consider City's argument.Where have you been for the past 6 months? They didn't even bother looking at our 'irrefutable evidence' as far as we're aware!!
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Why is it obvious why our appeal failed at the AC stage? Stefan has written on the “wood for the trees” thread that they (the AC members) are generally well thought of
The same reason the club said it failed, total disregard for any City evidence and a pre-arranged guilty verdict, IC or AC or AC/DC, the verdict was going to be guilty, perhaps you are correct the AC have a better class of bribe taker...
Lovely to see Ed Woodward talking up the "clear" benefits of FFP.
Haha "We can thank FFP for allowing me to run up huge dividends for the owners of MUFC while having a dick about in the transfer market. It really has been great fun"
MillionMilesAway
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Disagree, illegal actions are exactly that, illegal, no matter whether actioned by a person and/or an organisation.
Failure of process will be part of the case against UEFA but City are saying UEFA totally ignored their 100% proof of where all monies came from, so in very short terms there is no failure of process, there is total disregard for any process and guilt was already decided upon submission of the charge.
Anyhow, back to work, have a good day mate.
Indeed, opinions, eh?
Exeter Blue I am here
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The same reason the club said it failed, total disregard for any City evidence and a pre-arranged guilty verdict, IC or AC or AC/DC, the verdict was going to be guilty, perhaps you are correct the AC have a better class of bribe taker...
You have evidence of this of course?
Further to what you say, we signed up to rules and were told that they were to be interpreted in a particular way. Once we handed in our books UEFA changed its interpretation of said rule. We didn't sign up for that and any **** (Syed) who thinks this is honest practice is a cheat and party to corruption.
The 'Agreed' argument is always hilarious, particularly when Delaney gets hysterical about it. As anyone can state and see, there is no alternative competition, so it is either play in UEFA's comps or abstain.
That's the one worry I do have.I can accept that was the case in respect of the Invetsigatory Chamber whose spokesman seemed to have pre-judged the matter before he had even received City's evidence but the Adjudicatory Chamber. I cannot believe that they did not consider City's argument.
The adjudicatory chamber of UEFA must know City would come back hard if banned. They are either fools or they have seen good evidence to support the Investigatory Chamber.
As said before, I would not like to get on the wrong side of HRH and Khaldoon.
I am relying on arguments here that people like PB have posted.
It's explained here. I am afraid its lengthy but you can probably skim read it to get the idea.
https://boltfromtheblue.live/2018/11/18/how-uefa-shifted-the-goalposts-to-shaft-man-city/
Recently reiterated by SwissRamble on twitter
M18CTID
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Mullock and Duncan at it on twitter
Some thick scouse twat at it on that thread:
abu13
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I am sure that we are on the right side of this dispute with Uefa but i cant get away from the fact that this isnt a matter of law, we are not arguing at this time about the legality of FFP that is for another day at a higher court if required. I think a lot depends on how our facts are interperated by CAS.
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