UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[BillCarlisle]

.........helping himself to food and drink and as you say constantly looking to stir shit and cause trouble.[/QUOTE]

Mrs BillCarlisle has said that about me on the odd occasion !

 

[chedinho]

Did you see Quinn play? A much better footballer than a lot of people give him credit for.

he was a good player.
Unfortunately as soon as someone hit a long ball to him it would set the pattern for the rest of the match.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Did you see Quinn play? A much better footballer than a lot of people give him credit for.

A decent player but an utter knob of a bloke. I saw him a few times in the Ducie Arms and he seemed like a decent bloke with an affinity for the club, how fecking wrong I was

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

The way the pandemic is going, rather than chasing City for punishment, clubs will need someone who can put money into the game and I can only see us and PSG with the ability to do just that. We might be able to get some bargains for once as sellers will have little to bargain with. In a perverse way, City may become 'loved' as the rest of Europe will have no option but to accept any take it or leave it bids that we put in. It is in UEFA'S best interests to drop these charges if it wants the sport to continue in a recognizable format.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

The way the pandemic is going, rather than chasing City for punishment, clubs will need someone who can put money into the game and I can only see us and PSG with the ability to do just that. We might be able to get some bargains for once as sellers will have little to bargain with. In a perverse way, City may become 'loved' as the rest of Europe will have no option but to accept any take it or leave it bids that we put in. It is in UEFA'S best interests to drop these charges if it wants the sport to continue in a recognizable format.

As someone else has said..I find it hilarious that certain people in the media etc who have championed that our owner cannot put his own money into our club, are now championing that the likes of of our owner and club should pump money into other clubs to keep football going

They can fuck right off in my book

 

[nmc]

.........helping himself to food and drink and as you say constantly looking to stir shit and cause trouble.

Mrs BillCarlisle has said that about me on the odd occasion ![/QUOTE]

But do you write unadulterated bollocks on the BBC website morning noon and night?

 

[Plain Speaking]

There's plenty of scope to apply for preliminary relief should it be required, and with a 10 day turnaround June would probably be the cut off to do so if next seasons competition was starting in July which is far from likely.

https://www.tas-cas.org/en/arbitration/code-procedural-rules.html

I think we should factor in the lack of resources/personnel CAS are likely to face, and the huge volume of cases and unique complexities that are likely to go to CAS in these extraordinary times.

City's FFP case maybe the most important case in our club's history? but it won't be top of the list of the case's CAS will be looking at with all the coronavirus issues!

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

The way the pandemic is going, rather than chasing City for punishment, clubs will need someone who can put money into the game and I can only see us and PSG with the ability to do just that. We might be able to get some bargains for once as sellers will have little to bargain with. In a perverse way, City may become 'loved' as the rest of Europe will have no option but to accept any take it or leave it bids that we put in. It is in UEFA'S best interests to drop these charges if it wants the sport to continue in a recognizable format.

Demands are growing that Premier League clubs should allocate some of their broadcast revenues to smaller clubs to help them survive. Henry Winter has done two pages on it in today's Times. No one has pointed out yet that, even if clubs wanted to do this, they couldn't because they would breach FFP rules. The football authorities hate investment but love debt. If they want to help the smaller clubs perhaps they should just borrow a huge amount of money and give it to the smaller clubs creating a huge pot of debt. That would be fine under FFP. What a farce.

 

[hello]

Demands are growing that Premier League clubs should allocate some of their broadcast revenues to smaller clubs to help them survive. Henry Winter has done two pages on it in today's Times. No one has pointed out yet that, even if clubs wanted to do this, they couldn't because they would breach FFP rules. The football authorities hate investment but love debt. If they want to help the smaller clubs perhaps they should just borrow a huge amount of money and give it to the smaller clubs creating a huge pot of debt. That would be fine under FFP. What a farce.

PIK bonds I believe are most preferred & the cayman islands are still open so i'am sure the Glazier clan could sort some favourable rates out if the PL clubs really wanted to do this.

 

[blueyorkie]

Demands are growing that Premier League clubs should allocate some of their broadcast revenues to smaller clubs to help them survive. Henry Winter has done two pages on it in today's Times. No one has pointed out yet that, even if clubs wanted to do this, they couldn't because they would breach FFP rules. The football authorities hate investment but love debt. If they want to help the smaller clubs perhaps they should just borrow a huge amount of money and give it to the smaller clubs creating a huge pot of debt. That would be fine under FFP. What a farce.

Surely there could be a central pot into which the Premier League teams could contribute to thereby not paying an individual club but helping prop up the lower league teams

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I think we should factor in the lack of resources/personnel CAS are likely to face, and the huge volume of cases and unique complexities that are likely to go to CAS in these extraordinary times.

City's FFP case maybe the most important case in our club's history? but it won't be top of the list of the case's CAS will be looking at with all the coronavirus issues!

I'd be surprised if CAS hasn't written to both sides and suggested they might mutually agree a suspension.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Surely there could be a central pot into which the Premier League teams could contribute to thereby not paying an individual club but helping prop up the lower league teams

I don't expect FFP to be applied strictly this season, and probably next. It'll be impossible to work out and unwind.
They might come up a with a fudge system, and I can see clubs taking advantage.

 

[wahablue]

Thinking about the lower leagues difficulty in players wages !Couldn,t the Premier League teams players 25 in each squad,pay one weeks wages per month into a pot to help fellow players, think some players are on £250K a week (Shirley) some players could afford that.In my younger days many a time at the gates of the building site there would be collection buckets for guys who were in difficulties .not much to ask if on a Premier League wage.

 

[rabby]

Thinking about the lower leagues difficulty in players wages !Couldn,t the Premier League teams players 25 in each squad,pay one weeks wages per month into a pot to help fellow players, think some players are on £250K a week (Shirley) some players could afford that.In my younger days many a time at the gates of the building site there would be collection buckets for guys who were in difficulties .not much to ask if on a Premier League wage.

I read somewhere that the average squad wage in the premiership is now £60k.
If each squad has 25 players and multiply it by the 20 clubs thats £30 million paid out per week,could do a lot helluva good with that if it could ever be done.
A fantastic gesture it would be as well.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

I would love to be a fly on the wall in the directors offices of clubs like Man Utd, Real Madrid and Barcelona. As they discuss with their respective bankers on how they can help them pay their wage bill With all their debt problems and next to no money coming in, in the next couple of weeks maybe even months. What I want to know is how are they going to service their debts. Alaso what will UEFA do about it. Afterall they (that is UEFA will one day have to charge them all with breaking FFP). They can only be getting bigger by the day, with wages having to be paid out to the players right throughout their respective clubs.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

I would love to be a fly on the wall in the directors offices of clubs like Man Utd, Real Madrid and Barcelona. As they discuss with their respective bankers on how they can help them pay their wage bill With all their debt problems and next to no money coming in, in the next couple of weeks maybe even months. What I want to know is how are they going to service their debts. Alaso what will UEFA do about it. Afterall they (that is UEFA will one day have to charge them all with breaking FFP). They can only be getting bigger by the day, with wages having to be paid out to the players right throughout their respective clubs.

Might just go and have a hand shandy on that. What a lovely thought at a time like this. Every cloud etc.

 

[kaz7]

Thinking about the lower leagues difficulty in players wages !Couldn,t the Premier League teams players 25 in each squad,pay one weeks wages per month into a pot to help fellow players, think some players are on £250K a week (Shirley) some players could afford that.In my younger days many a time at the gates of the building site there would be collection buckets for guys who were in difficulties .not much to ask if on a Premier League wage.

It is not their responsibilty,the fa has tons of money,it is their job to keep the lower league going

 

[bluealf]

It is not their responsibilty,the fa has tons of money,it is their job to keep the lower league going

Seems a bit cold that tbh.

Disappointing coming from you, K :(

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

Seems a bit cold that tbh.

Disappointing coming from you, K :(

I think she's absolutely right in her opinion.
Business continuity insurance is cheap to buy (when there isn't a pandemic) and any reasonable level of commercial management would have ensured they had it in place.
Not having it in place is a deliberate act, you set your insurances, you choose what you do insure for and what you don't. The rule of thumb is that you can choose to not insure against risks that you can handle yourself but you always insure against risks that you can't handle. In the same way that a lot of people don't insure push bikes or mobile phones but almost everybody insures their property - and those that choose to pocket the money instead of insuring their homes have nobody else to blame other than themselves if their roof blows off and they can't afford the repairs.
From the sound of things, a lot of clubs don't have adequate or appropriate insurances in place and that's their entirely their own deliberate doing. They chose to take bigger dividends by not insuring and then they expect others to bail them out and, in my opinion, they can go whistle.
If some if them go out of business then that'll be a self-enacted cull of the stupid and the more astutely managed / less greedy clubs will continue.
It's a meritocracy whereby those who merit survival do so and those that don't don't, because they don't deserve to.

 

[SilvaisSkyBlue]

It is not their responsibilty,the fa has tons of money,it is their job to keep the lower league going

Scudamore donating five million he received would be a good start, seeing as he collected plenty of money doing his job and when he left his job, rather than the five million requested for ‘services’ rendered.

Quickly followed up by the worlds highest paid union boss as I believe Taylor is, donating some cash.