The main offender today was Philippe Auclair.
I saw your comments about Rob Harris and Auclair was mild in comparison.
Rob Harris on Talksport (Natalie Sawyer show, last 10 minutes of the 10.00-10.30 segment) I don't ever listen to Talksport for the usual reasons but wanted to check what Harris had to say. It was bad.
"The case is about city trying to show the (UEFA) evidence is inadmissible. City say it is based on hacked or stolen information, documents published by der spiegel 18 months or so ago. It is about City trying to say you can't use this information because it wasn't legally gained. But other cases in Switzerland and CAS have said it is allowed to use such information and recordings.
City were previously sanctioned by Uefa six years ago for FFP breaches. That was overstating the source of revenue from sponsorship linked to their Abu Dhabi ownership. This is not retrying that case. It is new evidence around that and the suggestion that Manchester city actually were misleading or deceiving UEFA for a longer period of time over the true source of the sponsorship income. Some of it was allegedly linked back to the Abu Dhabi ownership, other companies in Abu Dhabi and the money was being channelled around and that led to the income being overstated.
There was significant evidence published by der Speigel showing internal Manchester city correspondence discussing this attempt to circumvent FFP. Manchester city have never disputed the authenticity of this documentation and they are trying to say it is out of context and should not even be considered because of the illegality of how it was obtained. But there is a pretty extensive amount of detail there of how city were trying to artificially raise their revenue because under FFP you are only permitted to make €30 million losses over three years and you need to be able to generate the money yourself".
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Like yourself, I am very nervous. Outside of City I have not come across anybody who thinks we will win. Whoever loses this case their reputation and image will be in tatters and I am just praying we are victorious.
Ah ok thanks for that see you all wednesday :)This is a 3 day hearing,wait till Wednesday.
Proving to myself I’m not an alcoholic, of course.What went wrong on that particular day?
That's because the only info they have is the shite put about by our glorious media. Half of these outlets don't seem to have a clue about what the actual charges are.Like yourself, I am very nervous. Outside of City I have not come across anybody who thinks we will win. Whoever loses this case their reputation and image will be in tatters and I am just praying we are victorious.
I thought they were not announcing the result for months
I once genuinely had someone who worked for me who claimed he wasn’t an alcoholic because he only drank halves. The fact the cünt used to drink about 30 halves each and every night clearly wasn’t part of his calibration process.Proving to myself I’m not an alcoholic, of course.
The main offender today was Philippe Auclair.
I saw your comments about Rob Harris and Auclair was mild in comparison.
Rob Harris on Talksport (Natalie Sawyer show, last 10 minutes of the 10.00-10.30 segment) I don't ever listen to Talksport for the usual reasons but wanted to check what Harris had to say. It was bad.
"The case is about city trying to show the (UEFA) evidence is inadmissible. City say it is based on hacked or stolen information, documents published by der spiegel 18 months or so ago. It is about City trying to say you can't use this information because it wasn't legally gained. But other cases in Switzerland and CAS have said it is allowed to use such information and recordings.
City were previously sanctioned by Uefa six years ago for FFP breaches. That was overstating the source of revenue from sponsorship linked to their Abu Dhabi ownership. This is not retrying that case. It is new evidence around that and the suggestion that Manchester city actually were misleading or deceiving UEFA for a longer period of time over the true source of the sponsorship income. Some of it was allegedly linked back to the Abu Dhabi ownership, other companies in Abu Dhabi and the money was being channelled around and that led to the income being overstated.
There was significant evidence published by der Speigel showing internal Manchester city correspondence discussing this attempt to circumvent FFP. Manchester city have never disputed the authenticity of this documentation and they are trying to say it is out of context and should not even be considered because of the illegality of how it was obtained. But there is a pretty extensive amount of detail there of how city were trying to artificially raise their revenue because under FFP you are only permitted to make €30 million losses over three years and you need to be able to generate the money yourself".
Harris is a fucking fraud.Based on these comments Harris just confirms that he hasn't got a clue what he is talking about. Apart from a brief mention City have not said much about the emails being hacked. In fact they have stressed that it is the overall context that is crucial ie the full email trail not how they were obtained. Der Spiegel have published a tiny handful of emails and they are open to many interpretations. He is just a fraud who is stealing a living including his repeated appearances on Qatari state sponsored TV channels like Al Jazeera.
Just a quick question on procedure of the appeal.....is it like a court case where the prosecution go first (uefa) and defence second or is it totally different set up ?....cheers
Harris must know, even from the public statements already made, that City's defence is nothing to do with the emails being stolen. That ship sailed a long time ago. He has repeatedly failed to make any attempt to balance his comments. I used to think he was just incompetent but you have to start thinking that he may be malicious in the way he is reporting this issue.Harris is a fucking fraud.
To paraphrase @Chris in London - why can’t he be both?Harris must know, even from the public statements already made, that City's defence is nothing to do with the emails being stolen. That ship sailed a long time ago. He has repeatedly failed to make any attempt to balance his comments. I used to think he was just incompetent but you have to start thinking that he may be malicious in the way he is reporting this issue.