UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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Ardwick Green Blue said:
I really hope the club weren't guided by what the fans want!!! The notion that we are going to take down UEFA, the G14 & any other perceived enemies through the courts is wildly optimistic.
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I don't think the Club would have been guided by the fans but it might have been one of a number of factors considered. It's more likely that our Directors felt that UEFA were being very unfair.

I think more fans are concerned with getting the ban overturned (or at least a weaker sanction) than believing we will take UEFA down (in an enormous way). I think the media have pushed the narrative that a City win would destroy FFP but I think that's a big exaggeration. We don't even know for sure what we are focusing on in our appeal.
 
projectriver said:
I believe the Conn article. I don't believe there was a moment where we could choose to agree or not. We were posturing. Whats important in my mind is what UEFA believed and the basis before the settlement. You may be able to re-open a settlement (and I remain in doubt on that) but UEFA definitely can't reopen it to complain about things UEFA knew in 2014. No chance.

We know the club felt strongly in Winter 2019 but thats not the same as having to decide whether to settle (or try to) this weekend just gone. By then they 1) knew they were facing a 2 year ban 2) Covid has happened 3) Each parties evidence and written submissions have been shared 4) they would have very well informed legal opinions. The parameters in which the club were deciding were different. I am not saying they should have settled, I am just saying emotion and other feelings in Winter 2019 that they had done nothing wrong (which by the way is not obvious on the face of the documents) is not necessarily relevant in June 2020.
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Stefan, in your opinion you think if City was offered a fine as a punishment, you would have recommended the club accepts it and moves on
The club had until Sunday to negotiate a settlement and very obviously the club was well aware of what UEFA was to submit to CAS

Surely this means IF the club was offered a fine to settle, it is as certain as it can be that City is very, very confident of a positive outcome
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Every single part of this post brought back a lovely warm wave of nostalgia for my childhood.

M16er here mate. 30 seconds from the Whalley hotel.
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Do you remember the Painters and Decorating firm opposite the Whalley, most of my mates worked there. Just remembered I think it was called Streets.
 
petrusha said:
I disagree with this. Very experienced practitioners can frequently read the mood music based on the way the arbitrators conduct themselves, the questions they ask and the way they interact with the representatives of the respective parties. It's not a foolproof guide but they often have a pretty good idea.
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I've tended to find lawyers try to dampen things down and stop clients getting their hopes up “we’ve done all we can, but it’s out of our hands now”.
 
dickie davies said:
Stefan, in your opinion you think if City was offered a fine as a punishment, you would have recommended the club accepts it and moves on
The club had until Sunday to negotiate a settlement and very obviously the club was well aware of what UEFA was to submit to CAS

Surely this means IF the club was offered a fine to settle, it is as certain as it can be that City is very, very confident of a positive outcome
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If City had been offered a fine to settle before CAS, yes they would have taken (within reason). Of course, it would have been painful but sometimes the risk reward balance means you settle. City went in to CAS confident, I am pretty certain about that. Now? No idea.
 
projectriver said:
If City had been offered a fine to settle before CAS, yes they would have taken (within reason). Of course, it would have been painful but sometimes the risk reward balance means you settle. City went in to CAS confident, I am pretty certain about that. Now? No idea.
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Great podcast!

Will City and UEFA receive the verdict before it goes public or at the same time?
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
Think are summer holidays started earlier than most so watched the same first episodes of Robinson crusoe every year, always back at school before the end of the series.
At 55 years of age can anyone put me out of my misery and tell me did he get rescued?
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Well, a cruise ship did arrive to pick him up but half the passengers had Covid so he told the captain to do one.
 
@projectriver Why do you think UEFA objected to City offering articles A92,93 & 94 as evidence in the appeal. I read A92 was a newspaper article and A93 & A94 were communications between UEFA and City. I said before this gives me hope that these articles support our argument. What’s your take on this?
 
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