UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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Colin Bells Boots said:
In the " court of public opinion " ie the supporters of every other club apart from City, the narrative is guilty .

The G14 clan members obviously, but the average supporter of other clubs simply follow the media line and City must be guilty because UEFA wouldn't charge them if there was nothing to be guilty of .

Gentlemen and ladies - we are guilty of being successful and upsetting the status quo - no point in arguing with the ignorant .
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I've got mates of other clubs who either don't think we're guilty or aren't arsed either way.

Bobbydipper thinks he speaks for all football fans when he comments as a bitter rival top six fan (either spurs or more likely Liverpool)
 
hcblue95 said:
So your basically saying City are guilty and if they are exonerated it will be due to a mistake by uefa or our legal team finding a technicality.

Out of interest, is there any way you would accept city aren't guilty of what they've been accused of?
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I just said I'll leave the thread but I wanted to answer this one. If City win and the irrefutable proof is made public I will happily change my opinion.
 
BobbyBoy said:
I will go with Forbes for this one.

Manchester City was found guilty of two charges: of falsely inflating sponsorship revenues when making submissions as part of the Financial Fair Play (FFP) compliance process; of breaching regulations by failing to cooperate in the investigation of the case by the Club Financial Control Body (CFCB).
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You were offering your own opinion and rationale as to why we are guilty?

Liverpool fans should know better than most to wait for the actual facts and context to emerge before throwing away the key.

Don't cite Forbes though, please.

Any friend of Donald Trump and Kylie Kardashian simply doesn't register.
 
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BobbyBoy said:
I just said I'll leave the thread but I wanted to answer this one. If City win and the irrefutable proof is made public I will happily change my opinion.
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Proves a point I have seen made a thousand times on here. Guilty until proved innocent. Job done. Not seeking irrefutable proof we are guilty. Interesting choice of words.
 
BobbyBoy said:
I just said I'll leave the thread but I wanted to answer this one. If City win and the irrefutable proof is made public I will happily change my opinion.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll be honest, I think it's quite possible we've been up to something slightly dodgy. I personally wouldn't trust any judgement from uefa though, because it's in their interest to work for the cartel. If CAS rule against us I will accept it, because I believe them to be by the book. I think a lot of city fans will also accept CAS' verdict, so I don't think we should be lumped in with the dippers in denial.
 
hcblue95 said:
Thanks for the reply. I'll be honest, I think it's quite possible we've been up to something slightly dodgy. I personally wouldn't trust any judgement from uefa though, because it's in their interest to work for the cartel. If CAS rule against us I will accept it, because I believe them to be by the book. I think a lot of city fans will also accept CAS' verdict, so I don't think we should be lumped in with the dippers in denial.
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When you say up to something slightly dodgy? By that do you mean try to find a way around invented rules designed to stop investment in Manchester City? Rules that simply wouldn’t exist if Sheikh Mansour had bought Inter Milan, for example? Whilst allowing other owners to saddle their clubs with massive debts?

I don’t think we’ve done anything dodgy at all.
 
hcblue95 said:
I've got mates of other clubs who either don't think we're guilty or aren't arsed either way.

Bobbydipper thinks he speaks for all football fans when he comments as a bitter rival top six fan (either spurs or more likely Liverpool)
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Yes I missed " most " out of my post.
 
FrankSwift1 said:
Does anyone outside the club and fans think we win the case? I've not read anyone being positive.

Are we in our own little echo chamber and suffering from confirmation bias.
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Any football fan outside of City ones think you are guilty; that if anything it took too long for you to get a ban; and that if you are found not guilty, it is only because you have bribed the right people.

You need to understand that most fans don't even know how FFP works. They'll see you spending 150 M€ and selling for 40 and say you are in infraction. They don't take into account the ticketing money, the TV rights money, the sponsorship/marketing money, the amortization of contracts, mutation indemnities,...

The fact for most is City is spending more, much more than their fav clubs or established clubs and it is unfair. That alone warrants a FFP sanction in their book. They are even saying that FFP is dead if City isn't banned... The truth is City sanction is in the hands of CAS now and it has nothing to do with FFP future.

I dunno how it will end in CAS, reason why i'm not posting much in this topic anymore. I think it is useless because CAS is serious and there will be no leaks. You just have to wait to know, no guessing game.

The only rival or non rival fans who are not condemning City are the ones who think FFP and its application is a scam. And even then, i saw a lot of PSG fans or Milan fans who think City is guilty and did some terrible thing (fraud). I was surprised to see a guy on redcafe who was vehemently against FFP as a MU fan some time ago.
 
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