UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[ancoats]

Wow! Really?

hahaha i did think that myself

but i was shocked that the quote sounded much like my post from the other day

 

[Reddish Blue2]

Hi

My first post, City supporter for 53 years and glad I am. Reading a lot of posts and most seem to go over the same ground again and again. And are filled with a lot of conspiracy theories, some of which may be relevant.

First, although some are relevant, why right at the start of this did City welcome the opportunity to go to an arbitration service, indeed wanted to. Because it didn't trust the structure in place.

Second, because some players were out to stop City as City were /are not one of the entitled ones.

Well, quite honestly, the world has been here before. Although in different spheres, it is all about stopping new structures overturning old ones. CFG is a disruptive influence and as such the current businesses, for that's what they are, will do all they can in order to stop this new, threatening paradigm.

So, whatever transpires tomorrow, which I expect the conclusion to be an overturning of Uefa's biased decision, in the end it will ultimately lead to the same conclusion, the end of power resting with a few self ordained ones.

 

[Big Dave Watson]

He replied to me within 2 seconds of posting. I shouldn't feed his negativity really. He gets off on it.

And again....

 

[Ballet-on-ice]

That's why he needs your positive energy! Quick, rub him!

My brain hurts.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Pep's demeanour (and words) are enough for me. Coupled with a strong belief that the club, and thus Pep, know.

I’m still minded to think that nobody actually knows but I really hope you’re right.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

Let's say worst case scenario happens, you really think CFG is just going to stop spending and investing in the club? A ban would hurt us for a few years, but you're overreacting to think we'd be back to City pre-CFG even with a ban.

I don't doubt the owners would continue to support the club. No question. They are good men and true.

It isn't about how the owners would react , we all already know that. It's about how the club would be destroyed - legitimately if this crock of shit sticks - by those interests that have wanted an excuse to do so since 2008.

 

[Big Dave Watson]

They did. Juventus and Milan call the tune in Italy.

Akin to United or Liverpool being demoted here.

There is also the very different dynamic of how the Premier League is made up over here.

The smaller clubs are happy to just exist and take the money, majority voting blocks can bring anything to the table of there is an agenda that can force a consensus.

We were one of only four clubs who voted against FFP in the Premier League, even when it was clear who was driving the agenda.

Who were the other 3 out of interest?

 

[Len Rum]

If we are deemed to have cheated and as a consequence we have won a competition, it is not beyond the realms of possibilities that the runners up would try for compensation. They could imply loss of income from merchandise and prise money etc

Only if we have broken a law.
Failing to comply with FFP is not breaking a law.

 

[WRicko]

That's really not what I am saying is it.

For the avoidance of doubt. I think we are guilty of breaching FFP rules.

For the further avoidance of doubt, I think these same FFP rules are wholly inappropriate and unfit for their alleged and intended purpose.

To elaborate further, I think we will be found guilty, but if we are exonerated it will be on a procedural point.

Seems like you are saying we are guilty whatever the outcome ?

What specific rule do you think we have broken ? What specific technicality do you think we might get off on ?

Why do you think we are guilt? Plenty of counter evidence on here if not in the media.

How can you support the club but not support the club ?

 

[Marvin]

Pep's demeanour (and words) are enough for me. Coupled with a strong belief that the club, and thus himself know.

I have been trying to buy that all day. Those will legal experience are insistent that City will know, hence Pep's confidence should be taken as very telling. If City's executive and legal team do know, I feel sure that Pep would have been informed. He certainly seemed very confident yesterday. Every blue who watched that must have thought 'he knows', and yet now the confidence seems to have evaporated away and the board is awash with WUMs

 

[happy]

Who cares about reputation when the laws are wrong? And which big team/club has never missed a single year of CL. They all have. You're making too much of it. A season is nine months and with a one year ban, we'd already be back in the hunt for top four by the Autumn. Don't listen to the sky is falling drama queens.

In a world of wrong, this stands head and shoulders above all the rest.

Reputation matters a great deal to our owners, unless of course you believe that ADUG have invested all this money out of a deep seated love for Manchester, perhaps a member of the family once got lucky on Grey Mare Lane?

Of course the laws are wrong, of that there is little doubt but nobody asked City to join the club, we took our seat at the table and now we're kicking it over, hardly surprising then that this has irked a few people.

A one year ban, should such a thing even be possible would be a disaster for City, the owners will lose face and who knows how they will react, this is a family that aren't used to losing.

 

[Withnail]

Well in this story Conn has repeated the earlier allegation that one email stated that "the remaining £57.5m (of Etihad payment) would be provided by City's owner Sheikh Mansour." That's simply not true is it because, as everyone on here knows, that email simply referred to HH.
He also claims in this latest story that UEFA have alleged that the Etihad money was "not paid by the Abu Dhabi airline." That's a change from his earlier stories which stressed that UEFA were alleging the money was "paid by City's owners." He's a disgrace.

Disagrace, being the operative word. Calls himself a City fan, not a chance.

 

[KS55]

Worried City fans can now help ensure good news, thanks to longtime secret forumite Uri Geller's Hairdo.

Blues are today urged to help City beat this trumped up charge   —  by rubbing this photo of boss Pep Guardiola's balding pate.


Utterly bonkers and beautiful. Shining away now.

Psychic Uri said: “Everyone must focus — positive energy can help us.”

He is calling on Bluemoon to harness the power of positive thought to help ensure the Blues get a positive result tomorrow.

It is hoped the outpouring of energy might be just the boost City needs to quash the original verdict.

And the timing of 19.56 has a special significance for Blues as it matches the year of the Trautmann final.

Uri (real name Tolmie), 81 this year, insisted the positive energy from rubbing our picture could help swing the verdict - despite it already having been sealed last week.

He said: “I’ll be doing it — I believe in the immense energy of the mind.

“All humanity is attached via an invisible thread.

"We can use it to transfer positive, powerful intentions.

"My mother described this gift as 'Shining'.

“I am asking everyone and all the readers of Bluemoon to rub the screen with your freshly cleaned paws."

"Scientists tells us our minds are located in our brains. Pep's brain is located directly under his bald spot."

"Take this seriously and focus with your brain and your mind."

Just think positively and say, ‘I shine on thee, UEFA. Thou shall not constrict our trade in contradiction of the founding principles of European and English Law. Shine on, Pep. Shine on.’.

“Certainly if millions rub Pep's spot lovingly, there will be a surge of positive shine."

"Pep will get to Monday knowing millions of people love him despite his being a baldy. Maybe other bald city fans will take heart from this."

Utterly bonkers and beautiful. Shining away now.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I thought by 19.30 hours on Sunday we'd have something more to go off than Pep's demeanour. No one seems to know anything. Still this morning the argument was that CIty would have an embargoed decision and hence Pep's confident post-match interview was indicative of success.

Pep is going big guns one last time tonight, get ready for it.

I think we've won just by his conviction.

 

[waspish]

With so much at stake and how those history clubs have gone after us I just hope City owner now takes his gloves off or we going to be back here again.

 

[g180aj]

i think them on rawk are waiting for you, your imagination is as vivid as them delusional bin dippers.

Let me get 1 thing straight I'm 100% confident we have won. However I do have fear what the implications could be if the decision were to go Uefa's way.

We have already seen stories in the press that the Premier league would investigate should we lose the case. We have also see Gerrard say he is waiting for a league winners medal when we lose.

We have also seen all but Sheffield Utd in the top 10 try to stop us over turning the ban.

How is it beyond the realms of possibilities that some will look for an opportunity for there pound of flesh.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

I believe that every City fan on this forum will be doing cartwheels by 9.35 tomorrow.

I also believe that a lot of posters will be near suicidal.

 

[Pam]

A one year ban sets the club back a generation.
A two year ban sets the club back a generation.
All or nothing tomorrow. If modern day City is something you've grown to like pray for a victory as a defeat, any sort of defeat, would be truly catastrophic.

If you think the press coverage and treatment by the football authorities here or in Europe has been bad thus far, you ain't seen nothing like what we would have to face if a bogus charge of cheating was made to stick.

This is a true existential crisis for the club I've supported my whole life. In the very truest sense of the word.

That is soooo ott

 

[alexmcity]

If people have enough time on their hands, they might search the net for similar cases at CAS and see whether some media wrote about the decision before its official announcement. Which would indicate whether the clubs were informed prior to it.

The key question is whether our bosses/Pep already know. If they don't, it's 50/50 for me. If they know, it's 99/1 City win.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Pep is going big guns one last time tonight, get ready for it.

I think we've won just by his conviction.

Where is he doing this, mate?