UEFA Independent Inquiry

BlueMonkey79 said:
I wonder if QR codes are "sequential". In other words a scammer only needs the first REAL QR code.

There is software out there to create your own QR codes for events.

So the scammer gets a real ticket. If he knows what he's doing decrypt the code or find out the "number" of the sequence. Then front here prints off hundreds more tickets from that sequence.

My money is on someone has copied or got hold of the QR data and reproduced thousands of "fake" tickets.
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Almost certainly not, they should be quite complex and difficult to guess.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I don't think your prediction will be far out. It looks like there were at least a couple of thousand fakes which is bad enough. That said it seems very strange for a French Government Minister to claim there were 40,000 fakes. Being so definite about a figure leaves him open to losing his job when he could have been a bit more cautious. Certainly the French will have to provide some evidence. Some Liverpool fans are obviously culpable but you can't blame those who missed the match because of the twats who jibbed in. I have seen the French police in action before. They are the worst in Europe in my view (worse even than those in Madrid). I also believe Paris is one of the worst places to host any event because crime is out of control there and the streets are not safe. Most of the locals treat visitors with contempt especially English ones.
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Ministers don’t lose their jobs over lies I’m surprised you don’t know that ;-)
 
Problem is UEFA. Totally corrupt and inept organisation. Will fine you MORE for arriving ‘late’ for a second half than racist abuse. Will fine you for booing their anthem. Will try to ban you from the CL for 2 years. Will fine you after that Atletico Madrid horror show.
Are we surprised that they cannot organise a CL final??
 
Cotontoquinn said:
Problem is UEFA. Totally corrupt and inept organisation. Will fine you MORE for arriving ‘late’ for a second half than racist abuse. Will fine you for booing their anthem. Will try to ban you from the CL for 2 years. Will fine you after that Atletico Madrid horror show.
Are we surprised that they cannot organise a CL final??
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Right on cue.

Hungary v England: Nations League match to have 30,000 fans despite supporters ban​

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Industrial scale ticket fraud, amazing and shocking , who would have guessed the dippers were capable of such actions.
 
It seems there were nearly 3,000 fake tickets actually scanned, according to the Stade de France managers, a figure which has apparently been accepted as genuine by UEFA. That obviously excludes fake tickets that weren't scanned.

If that's the case then it's no wonder the police & stadium authorities reacted early in the pre-match period, when the scale of potential fraud became clear.
 
WestGorton said:
It's like dealing with the Kremlin. The British press won't analyse it. For sure decent fans were caught up in it but the root cause is clear. The French police responded disproportionately but I didn't moan when my lad was hit with a baton in Lisbon for singing. You are abroad.
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I’m not sure they did respond disproportionately. Certainly not, if their actions averted even a minor disaster.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
It seems there were nearly 3,000 fake tickets actually scanned, according to the Stade de France managers, a figure which has apparently been accepted as genuine by UEFA. That obviously excludes fake tickets that weren't scanned.

If that's the case then it's no wonder the police & stadium authorities reacted early in the pre-match period, when the scale of potential fraud became clear.
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Exactly. And those suggesting that 40,000 fake tickets is an exaggeration should ask themselves why organised criminals, in possession of the printing technology to reproduce the tickets, a huge demand (not least from people already committed to travel) and the ability to shift them on in a short period of time for cash, would limit themselves to a few thousand rather than produce as many as they could "on an industrial scale".
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
It seems there were nearly 3,000 fake tickets actually scanned, according to the Stade de France managers, a figure which has apparently been accepted as genuine by UEFA. That obviously excludes fake tickets that weren't scanned.

If that's the case then it's no wonder the police & stadium authorities reacted early in the pre-match period, when the scale of potential fraud became clear.
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Those in the press criticising the actions of the police do so from the comfort of looking through the rear view mirror, where no disaster occurred, without seemingly considering the possibility that those actions were the reason for that.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
It seems there were nearly 3,000 fake tickets actually scanned, according to the Stade de France managers, a figure which has apparently been accepted as genuine by UEFA. That obviously excludes fake tickets that weren't scanned.

If that's the case then it's no wonder the police & stadium authorities reacted early in the pre-match period, when the scale of potential fraud became clear.
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If that is indeed true where did the 3000 go as there dosnt seem to be much footage of them walking away ,but there is reports of 2700 genuine tickets not been scanned
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
If that is indeed true where did the 3000 go as there dosnt seem to be much footage of them walking away ,but there is reports of 2700 genuine tickets not been scanned
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I thought I'd read that eventually the gates were opened and everyone let in, which would certainly explain why the Liverpool sections looked to have people in the aisles during the game.

But with the reports that genuine tickets weren't being scanned (or failing to work when they were) I guess it's possible that the fakes got in, meaning the genuine tickets were denied entry. As someone said in another post, if you knew you had a fake, you'd probably get there early.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Those in the press criticising the actions of the police do so from the comfort of looking through the rear view mirror, where no disaster occurred, without seemingly considering the possibility that those actions were the reason for that.
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It was pretty clear to me that the police felt they had good reason to stop admitting people. I doubt they'd have done that if 2 or 3 fakes had been detected.

Whether their subsequent actions - the use of tear gas and pepper spray - can be justified is another matter entirely of course.
 
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