Ufo's, for those that are INTERESTED.

[SWP's back]

There certainly must be a "tipping point" soon where by the general populace are deemed capable of dealing with the news that we are not alone. I just hope it is in my lifetime.

Never mind mathematical probability or various paradoxes, I just cannot believe that we are the pinacle of intelligence (as any matchday thread will prove) and I think the world would be a better place knowing more. I also hope it would bring an end to religeous hatred and intolerance and it was shown that it was a thing of the past.

Ps - any theists among us, please don''t jump on my back and hi-jack the thread on my final point, that is a thread all of its own.

Not going to hijack this thread, but if aliens did visit us do you think they would believe in a god? There is no way they would have all the answers, and unless they are nothing like us, i think they (some of them) too would believe in a god.

My last post as its a good thread and doesn't need this hijack;

I feel any civilisation sufficiently advanced does not need a god to feel secure. We have always had gods. Gods of earth, wind, water, the harvest etc etc. We couldn't explain everyday occurancies and needed to feel in control. Praying to a god of the harvest gave a limited sense of being able to effect what would happen etc.

Religion is from a by gone era (imho) and whilst it still does much good in the world, it also does much harm due to its powerful effect. If religion was not taught to children for just 50 years, the world would be free of its oppression.

As I say, unfair on Buzzer to have this discussion here, if you want to continue it, please start a thread and I would happily contribute but the simple answer is no. I do not think ET would have their own gods if they have mastered interstellar travel.

 

[BulgarianPride]

Some of the UFO: Files episodes are really good. The two i posted were good, evidence wise.Now i am watching UFO:Files Alien Engineering, looks good from the first 5 mins.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFbPw_qpwI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFbPw_qpwI</a>

 

[buzzer1]

There certainly must be a "tipping point" soon where by the general populace are deemed capable of dealing with the news that we are not alone. I just hope it is in my lifetime.

Never mind mathematical probability or various paradoxes, I just cannot believe that we are the pinacle of intelligence (as any matchday thread will prove) and I think the world would be a better place knowing more. I also hope it would bring an end to religeous hatred and intolerance and it was shown that it was a thing of the past.

Ps - any theists among us, please don''t jump on my back and hi-jack the thread on my final point, that is a thread all of its own.

Not going to hijack this thread, but if aliens did visit us do you think they would believe in a god? There is no way they would have all the answers, and unless they are nothing like us, i think they (some of them) too would believe in a god.

-- Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:26 pm --

There you go BP.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG3bmNAcCwk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG3bmNAcCwk</a>

then follow the links.

Some of the lights look like high altitude planes ( or very far away). I don't know what this thing in the above video is, but in this one <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WUcvBtyZ1M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WUcvBtyZ1M</a> , it looks like planes at a high altitude. When he zoomed in, you can see the tail light and the wing lights. (the plane might of been taking off as i see its underbelly, that's what it looks like it me)

As for this one <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG3bmNAcCwk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG3bmNAcCwk</a> , i have no idea. It seems it stays in one position, have your mate setup a descent telescope to aim at it if it every "returns". If it still looks like a light dot, then it's a star.

Yeah, they do look rather like planes of some description,but he did say that at one time he was watching one travelling alomg the east lancs rd, high altidude and when it reached a point further down the Lancs it seemed to return completely Morphed into a different shape. He did'nt have his camera equipment with him as he was himself travelling in his car but pulled over when he thought he saw the initial Craft.

I'll mention what you recommended to him, he is right into it all, he sold his buisness and can now afford to live life as he sees fit, into positive energies and is forever behind his Binos.

-- Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:21 pm --

Not going to hijack this thread, but if aliens did visit us do you think they would believe in a god? There is no way they would have all the answers, and unless they are nothing like us, i think they (some of them) too would believe in a god.

My last post as its a good thread and doesn't need this hijack;

I feel any civilisation sufficiently advanced does not need a god to feel secure. We have always had gods. Gods of earth, wind, water, the harvest etc etc. We couldn't explain everyday occurancies and needed to feel in control. Praying to a god of the harvest gave a limited sense of being able to effect what would happen etc.

Religion is from a by gone era (imho) and whilst it still does much good in the world, it also does much harm due to its powerful effect. If religion was not taught to children for just 50 years, the world would be free of its oppression.

As I say, unfair on Buzzer to have this discussion here, if you want to continue it, please start a thread and I would happily contribute but the simple answer is no. I do not think ET would have their own gods if they have mastered interstellar travel.

You're right SWP,and imo i think that they are trying to in some way help us to slip the straight jacket of oppression from the conditioning that we have rammed down our necks from cradle to grave. The ETs may well have in some way a belif system but will more than likely be based on fact and not Manipulated texts from a bygone age, they maywell know all about the reason for our being and how we arrived, we are possibly the most backward race in the universe and again, the system is designed to keep us backward and oppress our true awareness, through the media, through rules, through institutions and so called seats of learning and imo and most of all, Religion. Each to his/her own though.

-- Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:25 pm --

Accepted. I think disclosure is'nt far away, well i hope disclosure is'nt far away shall i say. There are some well read people on this thread(me not being one of them btw) and i have learned an awful lot on the whole since joining the whole forum and especialy threads like this, both for and against the belief in UFO's or how and if ETs are amongst us and/or visiting us, top stuff and keep the Pics and vids coming guys. Hopefully in the near future i will have some footage to post myself as the Nights are clearer and i have my night vision Binos, so heres hoping, it's just a bit difficult atm as i am in work and on the road for 3/4am, i'm changing career next year though so i will have more time and my life back, and of course, more Sky Scanning.

Look out for the ISS going over between 6 and 7.30 am this week mate.. Should look fantastic through the bins.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.spaceweather.com/flybys/search_results.php?lat=53.5&long=-2.21667&offset=0&country=GB&state=Manchester&city=Manchester" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.spaceweather.com/flybys/sear ... Manchester</a>

Tomorrow morning look south and 40degrees up from the horizon at 07:10 with it reaching maximum at 07:12.

And for the next 5 days around the same time...

Cheers mate,thats a cracking link is'nt it. I'm up early(3am) so will take my Binz in my lorry, don't know where abouts i'll be but i'll take 'em, ishould'nt be to far away.<br /><br />-- Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:46 pm --<br /><br />

Some of the UFO: Files episodes are really good. The two i posted were good, evidence wise.Now i am watching UFO:Files Alien Engineering, looks good from the first 5 mins.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com.quote" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com.quote</a>

Just watched the first one mate and it looks good, the talk of drag in different atmospheres is intriguing, i'll watch NO.2 tomorrow.

 

[HelloCity]

http://kotaku.com/5702479/has-nasa-discovered-life-on-saturns-moon

 

[lloydie]

http://kotaku.com/5702479/has-nasa-discovered-life-on-saturns-moon

Nice find, will watch with interest.

 

[BulgarianPride]

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/schedule.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/schedule.html</a>