UK far right trouble

Oh dear maybe Farage will have to own his riots?


Ofcom talking about censoring social media only on Wednesday to stop misinformation yet the misinformation was coming from the BBC and the mainstream media. Unbelievable cover-up from the media and the political class that would make China and Russia proud.
 
Many people believed it was terror related by the reports coming from local witnesses saying he was shouting Allah Akbar and also reports of the **** being on the watch list. What I don’t get is they had already raided his house by time the declared it wasn’t terror related, they probably knew at the time it may have been. Hopefully the truth will be revealed during the court case.

I understand they're probably trying to keep these things quiet so we don't get riots. The problem is that by withholding such information it only makes matters worse. When the truth does eventually come out it then creates more distrust in the authorities and the police.
 
So it appears the teenager who killed the poor young girls in Southport had an Al Queda training manual and was producing ricin, yet they're not treating it as a terrorist attack. Bizarre.
Careful now posting facts like that, you'll be accused of having a threesome with Farage and Robinson any minute...
 
Careful now posting facts like that, you'll be accused of having a threesome with Farage and Robinson any minute...

Ha ha yes probably. Deep down everybody suspected the attack was probably terror related, but even now, with further evidence released, probably reluctantly, they are not labelling it as one.
 
Just read the reports on this and the more I read them the less I understand.
Terrorism related charges but a refusal to call it a terrorist incident.
 
Many people believed it was terror related by the reports coming from local witnesses saying he was shouting Allah Akbar and also reports of the **** being on the watch list. What I don’t get is they had already raided his house by time the declared it wasn’t terror related, they probably knew at the time it may have been. Hopefully the truth will be revealed during the court case.
You seem to know an awful lot!

Do you think a cop stuck his finger in some powder in his bedroom and said ‘yep that’s ricin sarge’

Or they cracked open his computer and went straight to a pdf file with the manual on it?

No, these things can take weeks. His computer or any one of his devices would’ve likely been full of all kinds of vile shit that need expertly going through.

In addition possession of these items requires no mens rea or intent -just possession whereas the crimes he committed require an intent of some kind that would fit the definition of terrorism. Nuance seems an old fashioned word in todays social media frenzy but that’s what it is.

At no point did the police say it wasn’t terror related-they were clear in saying ‘we are not treating it as terror at this time’-that’s an important difference-and as I’ve said numerous times here offences under TACT largely just give police more powers and time to investigate.

Despite these despicable, evil crimes he still has a presumption of innocence in law and we should all, inc the media, respect his right to a fair trial. Other things may indeed emerge, and likely will, but that’s for the police and cps and either way none of this justifies the conduct we all witnessed in the immediate aftermath.

Of course grifters like farage and Jenrick will seek political capital out of this.
 
So it appears the teenager who killed the poor young girls in Southport had an Al Queda training manual and was producing ricin, yet they're not treating it as a terrorist attack. Bizarre.

Sky news and the fuzz are saying he will be charged with terror offences.
 
Sky news and the fuzz are saying he will be charged with terror offences.
Yes for possession of the items-it is still at this point separate to the acts he committed in killing those children, which require intention under the definition of terrorism as opposed to mere possession of said items.

These are important albeit nuanced differences.
 

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