There’s not enough in the public domain to know whether it is or isn’t, we don’t know what the reason for prosecution not taking place yet is. It also wouldn’t be similar to the charges we were discussing against Connelly so you’d then have to do a comparative to a more similar act once this one gets to prosecution to know.
It still doesn’t change that when you look at the two cases I mentioned and look at the judgments against the sentencing guidelines, neither of those look disproportionate and no one has yet attempted an argument to say they are.
You don't think the Danczuk case qualifies as an offence of distributing material with the intention of stirring up racial hatred?! The person distributing the video said "these fucking white devils" and "I'm gonna put one in his head" if you've not yet seen the video.
Why do you think these cases are taking so long for a charging decision to be made? It doesn't sound like rocket science to work out who the offender was or in the case of the Manchester airport video, which was caught on camera.
Well, no, that doesn’t sound like it would be inciting racial hatred. It would be more the direct abuse of an individual. I haven’t seen the video or the full context though.
On your second point, I don’t know about the Danczuk one as like I said there’s not enough to know. On the Manchester airport one, I imagine it’s because they’re still doing their internal investigation and waiting for that to conclude. Why would they want it to wait longer than it needs to?
Because the IOPC are investigating it before it goes to the CPS and both take a seemingly unaccountable age to do itWhy do you think these cases are taking so long for a charging decision to be made? It doesn't sound like rocket science to work out who the offender was or in the case of the Manchester airport video, which was caught on camera.
It sounds to me like it's directing hatred against a racial group...he used the plural 'devils' as in reference to a racial group rather than the singular 'devil' to racially abuse an individual. With your knowledge of the guidelines, what sentence do you think would be appropriate? The video is really easy to find by the way.
What internal investigation needs to take place? The police sent the file to the CPS months ago after which, thousands and thousands of criminals have commited crimes and been prosecuted for them. The police investigate crimes not the CPS so it's just a question of reviewing the evidence and making a charging decision. Why hasn't this taken place yet...do you not think the delay is in itself evidence of two tier justice when lots of charging decisions have been made regarding assaulting police officers that have taken place at a later date?
You can understand if it was a genuine whodunit but he's literally on camera doing it and was arrested at the scene.
Someone had it right before if people aren't on side with the cause they are happy they get fucked over.So what should we give these poor farmers that were in that there London today then?
A couple of years in pokey for possibly stopping or slowing down an ambliance that was maybe on its way to someone who might have croaked?
Well yeah of course the vast majority of people involved wouldn't be protesting/rioting if it was a white British Christian...the protests/riots were clearly a hostility to immigration/Islam/asylum seekers so not really sure what clever point you're making or why it took my post for you to realise that.
The point is though, it doesn't matter what your politics are, it's shameful that the UK are locking up, or trying to lock people up, for various non-crimes and some (not all) very innocuous speaking/chanting/postings.
If Just Stop Oil were being locked up for similar speech/non-crimes, I'd be equally vocal in condemning that but so far you've only given the example of people deliberately causing large parts of the road network to shutdown which I'd argue most people would consider a serious crime if it blocks the emergency services from treating/rescuing people.
Oh and criminal damage to a very valuable and historic painting.
You can spot racist bile when it suits you.It sounds to me like it's directing hatred against a racial group...he used the plural 'devils' as in reference to a racial group rather than the singular 'devil' to racially abuse an individual. With your knowledge of the guidelines, what sentence do you think would be appropriate? The video is really easy to find by the way.
What internal investigation needs to take place? The police sent the file to the CPS months ago after which, thousands and thousands of criminals have commited crimes and been prosecuted for them. The police investigate crimes not the CPS so it's just a question of reviewing the evidence and making a charging decision. Why hasn't this taken place yet...do you not think the delay is in itself evidence of two tier justice when lots of charging decisions have been made regarding assaulting police officers that have taken place at a later date?
You can understand if it was a genuine whodunit but he's literally on camera doing it and was arrested at the scene.
On local news tonight , only 8 arrested for the hare hills riots cuts to 2 videos 1 tipping a police car over another throwing stones at a police van
Over 70 jailed for Southport riots
This is why people think it’s 2 tier