United 2016/17

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It would be wrong to suggest that the game isn't presently perceived as huge, and widely so, but its preeminence, even in the minds of united fans, is a relatively recent phenomenon. I would say that only in the mid to late 70's did the game start to take on any meaningful significance to both clubs' supporters, with the 1977 Cup Final, where it royally kicked off iirc, being the catalyst for that, imo.

Prior to that, and certainly prior to united's relegation in 1974, their game with City was far more important to them than their game against Liverpool. The Derby would undoubtedly have been the game they most looked forward to (and talked of) when they were barnstorming Division 2 in the 1974/5 season. It's worth noting, that period prior to the mid-70's covers roughly two-thirds of united's history, even if you exclude the period prior to when City were formed in their modern incarnation, in 1894.

This once again demonstrates what pitiful levels of understanding of their overall history much of their supporter base have. Rather than read up widely on the subject and learn about a club they profess to love, instead they unthinkingly accept the party line that's peddled to them, namely that this game has always been the biggest and best. It's more than a little pathetic that people who claim to love a football club, and its history, show such little genuine appetite and curiosity for the subject matter.
Kinnell GDM you'll have them crying under their Brian Ryggs duvet covers; if any of the fuckers can read.
I'd date the fake rivalry to our relegation in 83 rather than late 70s, but the FA Cup final of 77 helped kindle some sort of bullshine Ship Canal rivalry. This was mainly the media but it's the sort of crap that sells papers.
 
What's the matter with Mourinho? He seems extremely withdrawn and reserved at press conferences. He used to be a brilliant actor in front of the media. but not for a long time now.
He realises he can't polish a turd, he accepts the rags only got him as they were desperate and knows he ain't in the same league as our Pep.
 
Kinnell GDM you'll have them crying under their Brian Ryggs duvet covers; if any of the fuckers can read.
I'd date the fake rivalry to our relegation in 83 rather than late 70s, but the FA Cup final of 77 helped kindle some sort of bullshine Ship Canal rivalry. This was mainly the media but it's the sort of crap that sells papers.
The Luton game was noteworthy because there were quite a few united fans in the away end that day - even though united were playing simultaneously. Not that they're ever been bothered about us, obviously.
 
He realises he can't polish a turd, he accepts the rags only got him as they were desperate and knows he ain't in the same league as our Pep.
It really isn't like him.

The messy divorce from his beloved chavs has hurt him more than we'll ever know. Probably took the rags job (along with a stupid wage) out of spite. Was sold their 'vision' built on a mountain of Bullshit and noodle sponsers and it dawned on him early he was fucked.
 
It would be wrong to suggest that the game isn't presently perceived as huge, and widely so, but its preeminence, even in the minds of united fans, is a relatively recent phenomenon. I would say that only in the mid to late 70's did the game start to take on any meaningful significance to both clubs' supporters, with the 1977 Cup Final, where it royally kicked off iirc, being the catalyst for that, imo.

Prior to that, and certainly prior to united's relegation in 1974, their game with City was far more important to them than their game against Liverpool. The Derby would undoubtedly have been the game they most looked forward to (and talked of) when they were barnstorming Division 2 in the 1974/5 season. It's worth noting, that period prior to the mid-70's covers roughly two-thirds of united's history, even if you exclude the period prior to when City were formed in their modern incarnation, in 1894.

This once again demonstrates what pitiful levels of understanding of their overall history much of their supporter base have. Rather than read up widely on the subject and learn about a club they profess to love, instead they unthinkingly accept the party line that's peddled to them, namely that this game has always been the biggest and best. It's more than a little pathetic that people who claim to love a football club, and its history, show such little genuine appetite and curiosity for the subject matter.
Superb analysis Gord, it is laughable how young Rags (generally under 40), have this perception of United, Liverpool
being something that was eagerly anticipated the world over, ever since the football league's inception.
My dad, who wasn't much of a football fan, more Rugby League, used to express amazement and incredulity at United's
rise to prominence in the 60's,( Busby babes, Georgie two livers etc;), he occasionally went to Maine Rd with his best mate
after the war, and used to say that United were no different in status to any other club.
His dislike of them escalated rapidly, and thankfully, that rubbed off on me ;)
 
He realises he can't polish a turd, he accepts the rags only got him as they were desperate and knows he ain't in the same league as our Pep.
Added to the fact it's not the league they are going for it's a battle for forth spot,Spurs and Liverpool are far better and throw in Arsenal and Everton and possibly Chelsea if they get their act together,the penny has dropped with the eye gouger..
 
It would be wrong to suggest that the game isn't presently perceived as huge, and widely so, but its preeminence, even in the minds of united fans, is a relatively recent phenomenon. I would say that only in the mid to late 70's did the game start to take on any meaningful significance to both clubs' supporters, with the 1977 Cup Final, where it royally kicked off iirc, being the catalyst for that, imo.

Prior to that, and certainly prior to united's relegation in 1974, their game with City was far more important to them than their game against Liverpool. The Derby would undoubtedly have been the game they most looked forward to (and talked of) when they were barnstorming Division 2 in the 1974/5 season. It's worth noting, that period prior to the mid-70's covers roughly two-thirds of united's history, even if you exclude the period prior to when City were formed in their modern incarnation, in 1894.

This once again demonstrates what pitiful levels of understanding of their overall history much of their supporter base have. Rather than read up widely on the subject and learn about a club they profess to love, instead they unthinkingly accept the party line that's peddled to them, namely that this game has always been the biggest and best. It's more than a little pathetic that people who claim to love a football club, and its history, show such little genuine appetite and curiosity for the subject matter.
Never happened, Sky can't be wrong can they?
 
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