United 2016/17

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BigOscar said:
They've made the classic mistake of buying the best players available instead of the players that they actually need, a lot like Hughes did with us with all the strikers. As a result all their attacking players want to play in the same position, that free role with two midfielders behind them. But they don't have two decent CM to play in behind and then they are sticking with Rooney as the player with the free role, despite him obviously being shit. So Mikhitaryan, Pogba, Mata, Herrera and even Fellaini are just randomly bodged into different positions that they aren't suited to.

Most of the team they played against us was out of position, Blind at CB, Valencia at RB, Pogba and Fellaini as holding midfielders and Mikhutaryan as a winger. It's bizarre that they've let them get into this position
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Excellent post and bang on the button.An impressive summary of the mess and malaise at mufcmidfield_ mess. com

And long may it continue,lol
 
Snivelling coyote fornicators. Can't believe the level of deluded complacency they had going into that game.
 
mat said:
Talking to a rag last night who goes to the games (I know, a fucking rarity). He said he was in awe of the way we played, also that he looks at Peggy and thinks he's lost something? In his own word words "There's an emptiness in Jose. Like he's grieving"
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Gotta agree – ever since taking over at the Rags he's looked clinically depressed... strange considering the press keep telling us it was his dream to manage them!
 
dario2739 said:
Gotta agree – ever since taking over at the Rags he's looked clinically depressed... strange considering the press keep telling us it was his dream to manage them!
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I'm beginning to think he's burnt out. It's like he's had too much too soon and just doesn't have the appetite for the game as a whole anymore. The Eva business and the 'down tools' attitude from the club he loves so much last season has had a more devastating effect upon him than most of us will ever know. The rags job will be his last in Europe, that I believe. It will be either the far east or the USA after the vermin, and he'll want to go out with as big a bang as is humanly possible. But I think it's dawned on him that actually he'll be going out like a damp squib because us, the Chavs, the Dippers and the Spuds are all going to have a very very big say on where the Prem trophy ends up come May 2017.

He's not going to get his own way as consistently as the GPC did so it's more of a level playing field than the one he was anticipating. He knows this and has already started to distance himself from the inevitable catastrophe that lies in wait.
 
KentBlue said:
I'm beginning to think he's burnt out. It's like he's had too much too soon and just doesn't have the appetite for the game as a whole anymore. The Eva business and the 'down tools' attitude from the club he loves so much last season has had a more devastating effect upon him than most of us will ever know. The rags job will be his last in Europe, that I believe. It will be either the far east or the USA after the vermin, and he'll want to go out with as big a bang as is humanly possible. But I think it's dawned on him that actually he'll be going out like a damp squib because us, the Chavs, the Dippers and the Spuds are all going to have a very very big say on where the Prem trophy ends up come May 2017.

He's not going to get his own way as consistently as the GPC did so it's more of a level playing field than the one he was anticipating. He knows this and has already started to distance himself from the inevitable catastrophe that lies in wait.
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Had to laugh at the shots of Baconface in the crowd last week... shaking his head (not sure whether in disappointment or just his 'condition')
 
dario2739 said:
Had to laugh at the shots of Baconface in the crowd last week... shaking his head (not sure whether in disappointment or just his 'condition')
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Looked to me like he had just whispered to someone ' it wouldn'ae huv happened on ma watch'...to get the reply...'err actually...
 
KentBlue said:
I'm beginning to think he's burnt out. It's like he's had too much too soon and just doesn't have the appetite for the game as a whole anymore. The Eva business and the 'down tools' attitude from the club he loves so much last season has had a more devastating effect upon him than most of us will ever know. The rags job will be his last in Europe, that I believe. It will be either the far east or the USA after the vermin, and he'll want to go out with as big a bang as is humanly possible. But I think it's dawned on him that actually he'll be going out like a damp squib because us, the Chavs, the Dippers and the Spuds are all going to have a very very big say on where the Prem trophy ends up come May 2017.

He's not going to get his own way as consistently as the GPC did so it's more of a level playing field than the one he was anticipating. He knows this and has already started to distance himself from the inevitable catastrophe that lies in wait.
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His downfall is embracing the celebrity status. doing adverts, red carpet gala stuff and all that. A manager is there to manage. Not be a spokesperson for tea, or liquor, or a car.
 
After the dust had settled with the arguments I have been having at work with rags, I said to them calmly, "you do know that this bloke is going to do some horrific damage to your club don't you? Not just on the playing side of things but financially and the erosion of any bit of goodwill that remains towards you."
They said that if it looks like the wheels are about to fall off, they'll sack him before it's too late.
 
Josep said:
I know a coach who has the balls to play Pogba and Mkhi as two free #8s behind a mobile striker (Martial better suited than Ibra) and play Rooney or Herrera or a ball-playing midfielder (not Fellaini) as the #4 behind them. MU will be lot more attacking, attractive and will still win more. And all the attacking technical players will love to play for such a coach.
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I was saying exactly the same to a Rag mate the other day. It seems a bit of a no-brainer to me for them to play a deep-lying midfielder (personally, I think Carrick is still the best of the ones they've got), then Pogba and Mkhitaryan (or Herrera or Mata) slighly further forward. Can't/won't happen though, as it would mean no place in the team for "Wazza".

And, as you say, if Pep had turned up there, that's the way they probably would be playing. Saturday was a real, Bullseye-style "look what you could have won" moment, which made it all the more fucking sickening for every Rag (any claims to have been 'happy' with the second half is bullshit bravado), and all the sweeter for us (or me at least).
 
dario2739 said:
Gotta agree – ever since taking over at the Rags he's looked clinically depressed... strange considering the press keep telling us it was his dream to manage them!
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Have been thinking the exact same thing. Can also see the fans turning in the right circumstances., since a significant chunk of them were feeling dubious about Peg's appointment before a ball was kicked.
 
Eli Panic said:
He's not alone there - most of us are too. I had Danny Kelly on TalkSport on Monday morning from 6am. He was very effusive in his praise of our play in the first half. On Tuesday also, he mentioned it again. Also I've seen comments that the first half was the best display of football ever seen in the Premier League. And to think that this is just the beginning too!

I have a few colleagues who are United fans. Most think they were unlucky. Fine by me, let them believe that, and they won't need to address any of their problems.
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Its like the women who fake orgasms, their man doesn't think hes doing wrong so it wont get any better cos as far as he's concerned he doesn't need to..

Rag loving press are the ones faking the orgasms.
 
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