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nixmith2 said:
Just read this on Red Cafe, it made me warm and fuzzy inside:

"Ok, I'm done with the club right now. This situation is actually far worse than the Moyes one. In Moyes we had a charlatan - however, he wanted to do his best and had intentions to win and take the club forward. He just didn't have the knowledge or tools to do so. He set us back to a level that can be compared to Tottenham 10 years ago.

LVG - as usual he will look even better when you look at it in hindsight. He's growing for every minute now and I wouldn't be surprised to see a little chapter on him in the club's cabinet. With only a bit of luck there might even been a small statue - of course not the size of the biggest legends, but something like a face sculpture. We could discuss this matter for a lifetime without reaching a conclusion. Let's just leave it with a FA cup title. People seem to underestimate the difficulty with reaching to the very top in that competition. It's one hell of an achievement!

So let's go over to Mourinho. Last night he really shocked me. I've gone from hating him to fearing him. It all started getting spooky when we lost to Feyenoord in september, right after a horrible defeat to City. I said then that was the worse performance in our club's history. It was just unreal. We followed that up with a 3-1 loss vs Watford :houllier: SAF would never have had that. He'd be fuming after the City loss and go on to win 5-6 games in a row!!

So just what the hell is going on? I'll tell you my thoughts.

Guys, I'm afraid we've got ourself a full blooded psychopath as a manager. If you look at his behavior at the club it's unheard of. Yes, LVG had his shit with Di Maria and Memphis, but never did he let it get personal. I'm talking about Schweinsteiger here. This has become a virus in the club and we are now seeing the results of it. Mourinho is not a team builder - he's a freaking monster. He's constantly seeking for confrontation to scare the players at his own club, opposition club or people associated with football in any way. He started out softly with including Rooney etc, but it was always in the plan to overtake the power at the club.

At Madrid he went straight into the wall. He went into a fight with Cassillias and we all know how that ended. The club was in deep trouble for a long while until they got rid of him. At Chelsea it continued. This is because of some mental problem he's been getting of lately. Just listen to the way he talks, he just can't behave in the public room, he's just got to attack referees or players or even his staff. He needs house-training right now.

I called this before we signed him and had to retreat from that opinion right away after being HATE ATTACKED by the CAF!! I wanted to hang on to LVG. I saw the trouble coming from a mile away with that staff bullshit at Chelsea. And look at where we are now. IN DEEP SHIT. And it will get worse. He's now buying himself time by taking Schweinsteiger back into training in the frist team. I bet Schweiny is just in there to get more humiliation.

This freak is so sick that he even signs players that he can bully if there are not enough victims in the club. Take Mhiki for example last night. WHAT THE feck WAS THAT CONTRIBUTE MORE BULLSHIT?? :eek:

He knows he's lost right now. Just where the hell is he heading after a failure at our club? No big club will want him and he will never take on a shit job. Unfortunately we're stuck with him because we're already paying wages for both Moyes and LVG and can never afford having a third guy on the payroll + new manager (and who the hell would be the new manager????). I think this will cost us millions of pounds and will take years to repair - if it's even possible to do. RIP MAN UNITED!!!!:("
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domalino said:
In my opinion, having met a few of the all blacks fleetingly, the All Blacks culture of humility is (like so much about them and their image) completely manufactured and artificial. They love to sit around patting themselves on the back for being so humble, very rarely see much evidence of them showing any more humility than any other rugby players.
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fair enough...I am just intrigued by the relationship between (genuine) humility and the likes of balance, rhythm, power (even levels of skill). In this way,on the pitch at least, they seem a pretty good demonstration. To bring it back to football Pep seems to have a humility that says he is open to learn whereas Mourinho seems to have more of an image of arrogance - like a self - proclaimed 'master' - which is perhaps that which is causing him to fall over...
 
nixmith2 said:
Just read this on Red Cafe, it made me warm and fuzzy inside:

"Ok, I'm done with the club right now. This situation is actually far worse than the Moyes one. In Moyes we had a charlatan - however, he wanted to do his best and had intentions to win and take the club forward. He just didn't have the knowledge or tools to do so. He set us back to a level that can be compared to Tottenham 10 years ago.

LVG - as usual he will look even better when you look at it in hindsight. He's growing for every minute now and I wouldn't be surprised to see a little chapter on him in the club's cabinet. With only a bit of luck there might even been a small statue - of course not the size of the biggest legends, but something like a face sculpture. We could discuss this matter for a lifetime without reaching a conclusion. Let's just leave it with a FA cup title. People seem to underestimate the difficulty with reaching to the very top in that competition. It's one hell of an achievement!

So let's go over to Mourinho. Last night he really shocked me. I've gone from hating him to fearing him. It all started getting spooky when we lost to Feyenoord in september, right after a horrible defeat to City. I said then that was the worse performance in our club's history. It was just unreal. We followed that up with a 3-1 loss vs Watford :houllier: SAF would never have had that. He'd be fuming after the City loss and go on to win 5-6 games in a row!!

So just what the hell is going on? I'll tell you my thoughts.

Guys, I'm afraid we've got ourself a full blooded psychopath as a manager. If you look at his behavior at the club it's unheard of. Yes, LVG had his shit with Di Maria and Memphis, but never did he let it get personal. I'm talking about Schweinsteiger here. This has become a virus in the club and we are now seeing the results of it. Mourinho is not a team builder - he's a freaking monster. He's constantly seeking for confrontation to scare the players at his own club, opposition club or people associated with football in any way. He started out softly with including Rooney etc, but it was always in the plan to overtake the power at the club.

At Madrid he went straight into the wall. He went into a fight with Cassillias and we all know how that ended. The club was in deep trouble for a long while until they got rid of him. At Chelsea it continued. This is because of some mental problem he's been getting of lately. Just listen to the way he talks, he just can't behave in the public room, he's just got to attack referees or players or even his staff. He needs house-training right now.

I called this before we signed him and had to retreat from that opinion right away after being HATE ATTACKED by the CAF!! I wanted to hang on to LVG. I saw the trouble coming from a mile away with that staff bullshit at Chelsea. And look at where we are now. IN DEEP SHIT. And it will get worse. He's now buying himself time by taking Schweinsteiger back into training in the frist team. I bet Schweiny is just in there to get more humiliation.

This freak is so sick that he even signs players that he can bully if there are not enough victims in the club. Take Mhiki for example last night. WHAT THE feck WAS THAT CONTRIBUTE MORE BULLSHIT?? :eek:

He knows he's lost right now. Just where the hell is he heading after a failure at our club? No big club will want him and he will never take on a shit job. Unfortunately we're stuck with him because we're already paying wages for both Moyes and LVG and can never afford having a third guy on the payroll + new manager (and who the hell would be the new manager????). I think this will cost us millions of pounds and will take years to repair - if it's even possible to do. RIP MAN UNITED!!!!:("
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From the same poster on there; "Mourinho is a virus. He's even undoing the foundations laid by LVG, which makes it even more sad. I take it you're happy with our results of lately?"
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domalino said:
In my opinion, having met a few of the all blacks fleetingly, the All Blacks culture of humility is (like so much about them and their image) completely manufactured and artificial. They love to sit around patting themselves on the back for being so humble, very rarely see much evidence of them showing any more humility than any other rugby players.
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This , I am afraid

Never forget them manufacturing a penalty by faking a line out foul when on the point of losing to Wales in a test match in 1978
Total Bol lox from the nzru propaganda machine
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Haha. Read this:

http://www.theunitedpages.com/why-firemanmou/
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This comment struck me : "Or you end up with a situation, like we currently have, where the squad boasts enough ‘number 10’s’ to fill a minibus..."

They don't seem to know what to do with a genuine no.10 - under 4 different managers they've had Kagawa, Mata and now Mkhitaryan who had all proved themselves as highly effective playmakers at other clubs but the rags have tended to shunt them out wide and waste their talents while trying to fit the ailing Wazza into the no.10 role. And they wonder why they've got problems.
 
From all the extracts posted on the caf ( never been there personally ), one thing is blatantly obvious, and that is that you wouldn't want a Rag as an enemy, and you most certainly wouldn't want one as a friend !

Their world is crumbling before their very eyes and the soft arses , having had everything their own way for so long, can't handle the truth of the situation at the " greatest team in the world ". It is becoming their very own " night of the long knives " with everybody and everything running the risk of being blamed for their capitulation.

Having known only " glory, glory Man U times" these soft cnuts just are not used to adversity which many other clubs , City especially, have endured over the years and they are revealing all their worst and most pathetic traits - and long may it continue. Couldn't happen to a more deserving set of arseholes imo.

Jose is looking a totally beaten shell of an individual, and everybody else will feel the brunt of his recriminations - never an individual to accept his role or blame for defeat ( in the true United way ) !

Rats.................ship..............deserting......................all come to mind, but knowing the nature of these spineless glory hunters, I hope to god that they never try to attach themselves to us.

Rest in total misery you pathetic set of cnuts, and total implosion will hopefully befall your rancid fucking embarrassment of a " brand " ( excuse for a football club ) !
 
TCIB said:
Excellent and thank you :-D
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@TCIB Guy, Karen's playing it down. It was the crappest rag performance I have ever seen - they were dire. It was worse than any of our performances under Pearce and bordering on Frank Clarke or Alan "I'm A WINNER" Ball.

What a feeling what a night.
 
couple of rags at work today thought they had played well, and only lost to 2 wonder goals......... deluded?
 
grimmcfc said:
@TCIB Guy, Karen's playing it down. It was the crappest rag performance I have ever seen - they were dire. It was worse than any of our performances under Pearce and bordering on Frank Clarke or Alan "I'm A WINNER" Ball.

What a feeling what a night.
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Good, i hope they don't know what to do with themselves. The downfall of utd has been pretty spectacular and the fact their god aka the dogs dick skinned whisky lover is largely responsible makes it extra satisfying.
 
TCIB said:
Good, i hope they don't know what to do with themselves. The downfall of utd has been pretty spectacular and the fact their god aka the dogs dick skinned whisky lover is largely responsible makes it extra satisfying.
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He's totally responsible, he had no intention of leaving them in a "fit state" when he left, his ego wouldn't allow it, he wants to be their greatest ever, and he deliberately left them in a sorry state in that last season, despite winning the league, but knowing the "chosen one" Moyes wasn't up to it, and that he'd inflict even more damage. I'm sure he's secretly very happy with the current goings on, especially as the so called "special one" is making such a f**k up of it, I'll bet he's even happier that its mourhino making such a mess of it, because it makes his time look even better. Maybe they'll even ask him back to see if he can repair some of the damage, he'd love that.

The irony is that he now regularly comes to the Etihad to enjoy his football, YCMIU.
 
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