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Johnny Mars Bar said:
Guardiola is a genius I know, etc etc blah blah blah, but his massive blind spot when it come to the scum and the victims is totally inexcusable.

All these years and the guy just doesn’t fucking get it.
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It's like he's frightened of those games and doesn't want to really put it on the line in case we lose. Somehow, not being at our best and losing, is more acceptable to him. Almost deliberately hamstrings us. There's a name for it, which escapes me, in elite sports circles. Athletes and Tennis players, in particular, love an excuse on standby.
 
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burning blue soul said:
We have 3 points from 12

That's some implosion!
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The only implosion was today. We should have won the other three games but did not take our chances. Today, we had virtually no chances and conceded for too many; also made too many mistakes.

Plenty of reasons today why we were poor that do not need to be criticised but need to be understood. Some things worthy of criticism but Pep and players know that and Bernardo and Pep have expressed some of that.

Every time a team puts lots of men behind the ball, works hard and aggressively and hits us on the counter, there is a meltdown. Sometimes the opposition will get that right but try to fucking remember that far more often they fail against us. However, when it works for the opponent, it always looks horrid. Today was particularly horrid and has a lot to do with fatigue and inexperience.

Also, try to remember this is an injury hit team that is in transition and the way Pep plays is not a magic, quick fix but given time can produce record breaking results. City are getting closer to having a fully revamped squad and hopefully will go into next season in much better shape but there is still plenty to play for in this one.
 
Eaststander1 said:
A serious move for Zubimendi before Arsenal got to him might have helped ....
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Well coulda, woulda, shoulda but didn't.

What matters is what we do now. And without a midfield.. I don't think we can do a sustained challenge for the title.

A lot of people are blaming Pep but honestly it's due to him & Haaland's goals we're where we are in the table. Seriously need to address the midfield though.
 
Well we were lucky that we did not let in six and with a keeper less brilliant than Donnaruma we might well have.

Carrick out thought Pep and their players out fought ours. Being rags they were trying to dive and injure our team but they need not have bothered as we were gifting the game to them.

Far too light in midfield and that high line was constantly exposed. After the Newcastle game I thought we might be able to mount a title challenge but with the injuries, players not match fit and Foden/Haaland out of form I think it will be difficult unless Arsenal collapse.

I'm glad I did not taunt the office rags too much on Friday because Monday is going to be pretty shit.
 
A bit of a disaster Nunes getting the flu. Lewis and Ake were the result. Playing 2 wingers and giving up the midfield didn't work either, Foden getting beaten almost everytime in the middle left Rodri exposed and with Haalands current lack of form meant we had no threat up front even if Doku and Somenyo could have got some crosses in. 3 offside goals, hitting the bar and the post, some great saves from Donna saved us from a massacre.

Another issue I have is when Lewis plays - he doesn't offer any offensive nor defensive capability, but back to the issue he continually takes up the position of more capable players, the amount of times he was forward of Somenyo, then in Haalands way, and then on the edge of the box taking up the position of someone that perhaps could at least shoot. Lewis works hard but for too long we have known he isn't good enough, passing poor, pace, poor, positional play poor, shooting poor, tackling and dribbling poor.

Kush played well, Bernie ran his socks off, Somenyo was OK, Donna easily our man of the match, the rest not so good. Alty taylor is still a git, dalot should have had a red card, our injuries and the resulting tiredness cost us.
 
Agueroooooooooooo said:
I've thought our press has been too slack for ages and it was completely proven today. Their defence had so much more time on the ball than ours. Need a big shot of urgency injected into every player.
PS why did Doku not take his man on once even though he was on a yellow from early on?
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You don't press with Haaland up top, not as the tactics for the whole game. In the previous seasons since he came in, the solution was the other two attacking MF players were bombing up, KdB, Jesus, Alvarez, Foden, any two of those were very good at it, even Mahrez. But that definitely stopped being used since Alvarez was sold.

If only it was our only problem, which unfortunately it isn't.
 
Scott mcfc said:
I just wont slate haaland the guys a goal machine were lucky to have him,but the guy needs at least 1 ball over the top,they can all do it,its down to tactics
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We didn’t seem to create the space to do that today. I know we were awful but United never gave us any space to be creative. Someone on match day thread commented at halftime they wouldn’t be able to maintain their intensity for the whole game but unfortunately we gifted them a goal around the time they would have started to tire and that pushed them on again.

In the end they wanted it more and we were lucky to not get embarrassing more than we did. Wonder if squad had sickness issue. Nunes down with flu so odds are he wasn’t the only one not 100%
 
GaudinoMotors said:
Its like he's frightened of those games and doesn't want to really put it on the line in case we lose. Somehow not being at our best and losing is more acceptable to him. Almost deliberately hamstrings us.
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Which is frankly a fucking disgusting and embarrassing way to approach a game like today.

Away at the murderers in the Klopp era okay - I can understand the thought process behind trying to escape with a point.

But against Michael Carrick’s fuckin rags?! Fuck off Pep, anything less than going there with one plan which is to batter the cunts is absolutely inexcusable.
 
I don’t think I’ve seen a single opinion anywhere, from fans, ex referees, ex players, bloggers, that think the Dalot challenge was not a red card. Except VAR thought the challenge was not intense enough to break his leg, and that’s the threshold for a red card. Doku should have stayed down and the physios should have stretchered him off to make a point.
 
skillman said:
The squad we have is geared towards transition football.

Haaland, Cherki, Semenyo, Doku, Reijnders and Marmoush would all benefit from attacking in transition rather than against low blocks.

While our defence would be a lot more comfortable playing deeper.

While our midfield (Nico G, Bernie and Rodri) would all much prefer playing deeper and having the game in front of them than constantly chasing back.

Yet we have a manager who does the complete opposite and it shows in how poor our performances actually are.

The style of play we use does not play to the strengths of the majority - if not all - of our players yet it’s persisted with. Absolutely infuriating really.

Even today, the rags were desperate to play that way and we played right into their hands. If we sat back and used the pace on the counter to hit them; they would’ve been stuck because they’re poor against low blocks too. Yet we didn’t and got embarrassed as a result.

It’s really, really poor from Pep. Borderline neglectful.
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So true.

The balance is a mess.

Want to press…don’t have the legs

Want to keep possession….don't have the skill.

So we fall in between, which explains the erratic results and performances.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Guardiola is a genius I know, etc etc blah blah blah, but his massive blind spot when it come to the scum and the victims is totally inexcusable.

All these years and the guy just doesn’t fucking get it.
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His record against Spurs and Brighton isn’t much better.

There are certain teams who have the style to cause us problems. Pep just doesn’t know how to figure it out.
 
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