United Airlines - Passenger removal

[Mancityus]

At no stage have I said the police officer acted appropriately or not. I don't know their rules. But from a legal standpoint the guy was asked to leave the flight and he refused. From that point on he made a rod for his own back.

Now all you people talking about the airline chucking passengers off for their dead head crew to get on need to think about the bigger picture. Whilst I don't know what the DH crew were scheduled to do I will say that there are lots of cases where them not getting on that flight will have inconvenienced an entire aircrafts worth of passengers.

For example, an aircraft with a tech fault which takes too long to fix and puts it's crew out of duty time. Now you have 200 or so passengers stranded. The solution is to pull a crew off standby duty and send them out to operate the flight. They turn up and Ops informs dispatch that the crew need to be on the flight or flight xxx is delayed 12 hours and all those passengers miss whatever they were supposed to do. Dispatch now has to make room for the DH crew or flight xxx gets cancelled. This can all happen at the last minute and usually does.

The airline will have had good reason to make room for the crew. They will have weighed up the inconvenience to 4 passengers versus cancelling an entire flight. This happens all the time but it doesn't make the news unless a px gets stroppy and ends up on YouTube.

Did he squeal because he was punched? I haven't seen any footage of that. I have seen him get hauled out of his seat because he refused to do what the copper asked.

As for upping the offer, why not go the whole hogg and give away all your cash. Eventually no one will be able to fly as the airlines can't make a profit.

Airlines overbook to maximize their profit. This is allowed with understanding airlines offer compensation for passengers who volunteer to get off overbooked flight. This compensation has been determined to be maximum of $1350. United decided to save a few dollars ($550) and rather use force and apply law, rather abuse the law which is meant to protect passengers by giving airlines authority to take off any passenger due to security.

Well $550 saving is proving very costly today with stock losing over $900 million and many suits that will certainly come not only from that passenger but others on flight and this stupid management is what will cause airlines not to make profit not the $550 they could have paid.

 

[Busmo Funbag]

The airliner was 150% in the wrong and they will soon find this out once this guy has every lawyer in his city queuing up at his door to sue them for millions. The sensible thing to do would be to keep increasing the money offered for people to give up their seats. People won't miss their flight for $800 but if that starts going up to $2000 or $4000 then heads would have started to turn. The airline could have paid $20000 overall and had this resolved peacefully but no they decided to be cunts about it and used force to pull a man off the plane and now it will cost them millions.

That's not a bad idea for a game show. A plane load of passengers all holding their nerve trying to get the price up as high as possible but they can't leave it too late and let someone else get take the offer. It could be sensational, especially if they randomly and brutally dragged some **** off the plane at the end of each episode, just for the fun of it.

 

[Blue Maverick]

At no stage have I said the police officer acted appropriately or not. I don't know their rules. But from a legal standpoint the guy was asked to leave the flight and he refused. From that point on he made a rod for his own back.

Now all you people talking about the airline chucking passengers off for their dead head crew to get on need to think about the bigger picture. Whilst I don't know what the DH crew were scheduled to do I will say that there are lots of cases where them not getting on that flight will have inconvenienced an entire aircrafts worth of passengers.

For example, an aircraft with a tech fault which takes too long to fix and puts it's crew out of duty time. Now you have 200 or so passengers stranded. The solution is to pull a crew off standby duty and send them out to operate the flight. They turn up and Ops informs dispatch that the crew need to be on the flight or flight xxx is delayed 12 hours and all those passengers miss whatever they were supposed to do. Dispatch now has to make room for the DH crew or flight xxx gets cancelled. This can all happen at the last minute and usually does.

The airline will have had good reason to make room for the crew. They will have weighed up the inconvenience to 4 passengers versus cancelling an entire flight. This happens all the time but it doesn't make the news unless a px gets stroppy and ends up on YouTube.

Did he squeal because he was punched? I haven't seen any footage of that. I have seen him get hauled out of his seat because he refused to do what the copper asked.

As for upping the offer, why not go the whole hogg and give away all your cash. Eventually no one will be able to fly as the airlines can't make a profit.

I know all this however let me ask you this if you were one of those 4 passengers and that flight was to see your dying family who you knew would die before you got there the next day, would you have got off? Every single person has a reason for getting on that flight, if they don't they'd have booked the next day, what happens if he got on the flight the next day and it happened again, poor fucker wouldn't get home would he. No the practice of overbooking should be banned as well, it's down to pure greed on the airlines part.

 

[quiet_riot]

 

[Blue Smarties]

Oh my god this is hilarious. Properly gutted for the Doctor. Hope he fucks them over royally.

Dissapointed, but not surprised that Gelson the pilot is defending the airline. Wonder if all pilots share his disdain of their passengers...

 

[BigOscar]

Out of interest, how do the cunts "randomly" decide who to completely fuck over?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Airlines overbook to maximize their profit. This is allowed with understanding airlines offer compensation for passengers who volunteer to get off overbooked flight. This compensation has been determined to be maximum of $1350. United decided to save a few dollars ($550) and rather use force and apply law, rather abuse the law which is meant to protect passengers by giving airlines authority to take off any passenger due to security.

Well $550 saving is proving very costly today with stock losing over $900 million and many suits that will certainly come not only from that passenger but others on flight and this stupid management is what will cause airlines not to make profit not the $550 they could have paid.

Just seen this on the news, its like a seen out of a film ffs. I am struggling to understand why any of the United Airlines crew members on that plane or the security thought assaulting and physically dragging an unconcious payed up passenger who had done nothing wrong off a flight infront of the the other pasengers was a good idea. Just because you wanted to send some of your own crew on the flight instead. Not only that but the CEO has now offered a half hearted appology and defended his crew. His company has lost hundreds of millions of dollars so I expect he will now be forced to resign tomorrow over his poor handling of an epic PR disaster. I wont be flying with this company. Not that i would with a name like that.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Yes, the airline can refuse ANYONE to BOARD, but you can't just fucking kick people off when they haven't done anything wrong. I fly alot domestically in the US, and i have never seen such thing. All the overbooking stuff is handled before you allow your passengers to board, and unless you fucking drunk or a criminal, i am yet to see anybody being kicked off, or being asked to leave after the plane after it was boarded.

The fact it was a sunday flight, and the next available flight was on monday at 2-3pm, is no wonder they didnt get enough volunteers for $800 flying voucher, they could have gone upto $1350 flying voucher, and maybe they would have avoided all this in the first place. It's clearly that shity united fucked and there so no other way about it.

Precisely. Staggeringly poorly handled.

 

[Adidas Sharston]

Fucking bullies.. Hope they review their policy on this.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

United by name, United by nature.

Quite agree. Any other response totally misses this crucial issue. They fucked up, acted without class and resorted to violence. Typical United.