United (H) Post Match Thread

1969? you are but a boy. anyway had Pep played our best 11 from the off we would now be champions. its that simple. we destroyed Everton last week, why change a winning team? sheer arrogance.
Completely agree pure arrogance
 
Of course people are allowed to be disappointed. They're allowed to be gutted and raging and upset and express that anger however they like, but calling the manager and the players every name under the sun and saying it's the worst moment in City's history and undermining all the incredible performances and success we've enjoyed this season is on another level (not talking about you directly, just a lot of other posters). When we win, he's a genius. When we lose, he's the scum of the earth. Everything seems to be black and white with modern football fans. Mistakes can be made and big games can be lost without the need to start insulting the manager and asking the players to hand back their wages and talking about disgraces and black marks on our history that will "never be forgotten".

We're all disappointed, of course we are, but it's beyond myopic to start turning on Pep and the squad after two bad games, even if those games had a huge amount of importance. We've broken records, we've been brilliant, we've won a cup and the league is in the bag (it's laughable that some people are suddenly doubting that after yesterday). We've got one final shot at major glory on Tuesday night. It's a faint hope but it's a hope all the same, and after all the happiness and pride we've experienced this season thanks to our manager and our team, I think they deserve a little more respect. I'll be cheering them on on Tuesday and whatever happens I'm gonna look back on this season as one of the best I've had the pleasure of experiencing.
I agree with you. I expect us to buy a couple players in the summer, and even though it`s a big assertion, I expect us to be even better next season. Right now the odds are against us that we will go through on Tuesday, but we still have a little chance and we should all get behind the team and support them. We owe them that after this great season
 
It was the opposite to 'bottling it' v Utd.

We went out & humilliated them, then took our foot off the gas, team & fans.

When Lukaku jumped & completely missed a long ball, lump, header, just before half time, it was the most dominant I've ever seen a City team in a derby.

We thought we had it won & we fucked it up, then Atkinson helped them scrape a win. That's not 'bottling it' .
The trouble with your theory is that football games are 90mins long.
We should have had the game wrapped up by half time. We didn't take our chances - and now we're reduced to whinging about the referee. Yes, it was a shocker of a mistake (Young on Aguero), by the way. But again, sometimes you just have to make your own luck.
We had every opportunity to do just that but when the hard questions were asked of us, we bottled it.
 
Yes. It's interesting to compare the responses to this derby to when we beat them at OT in April 2013. I know this had the added spice of the 3-goal comeback. But back in 2013, we weren't acting like we'd done anything amazing like the Utd fans are still doing this morning; and they weren't that bothered about getting beat like we are now. Everybody understood it was a minor consolation prize before Utd won the title. I think this is a combination of Utd fans having now acquired a small-club mentality, and some City fans still struggling to shake off theirs. We should be offering them a patronising "well done" on delaying the inevitable for a couple of weeks, exactly like they did to us back then.

The patronising welcome is exactly what i did to my red side of the family last night, and before he arrived home from the pub i called it too my son saying ‘ he will bounce in shouting Pogba’...loh and behold he did exactly this. I just responded “congrats on getting your derby day in the sun, roles reversed now though eh as it used to be us City fans celebrating winning a derby and nothing else”

Stopped him dead in the tracks, and the reply was ‘oh only messing’....he didnt even talk about the game afterwards !!

Roles reversed completely
 
The trouble with your theory is that football games are 90mins long.
We should have had the game wrapped up by half time. We didn't take our chances - and now we're reduced to whinging about the referee. Yes, it was a shocker of a mistake (Young on Aguero), by the way. But again, sometimes you just have to make your own luck.
We had every opportunity to do just that but when the hard questions were asked of us, we bottled it.

I'm specifically talking about the 2nd half.

Crowd & players came out as if it was easy. That's not bottling it, it is arrogance.
 
I'm specifically talking about the 2nd half.

Crowd & players came out as if it was easy. That's not bottling it, it is arrogance.

Gotta agree man. Complacency kicked in. Even i thought it was over. Atmosphere was fantastic in the first 45 mins though
 
What as being English got to do with it?

Having a different awareness of the importance of this match. Mainly for the fans, the Blues.
For me, not being English, but all for City, didn't experience the pain of several decades, mainly caused by rag banter as it seems to me.
Raz did have tons of burden on his shoulders and he failed to do what he showed to be capable of many times before.
It was in his head, he was not free in that moment. Maybe I fail to explain, but you might guess what I mean.

But it was not my main point, so I will admit, the individual personality is way more important in such a big situation than nationality, of course.
 
Are we actually moaning at them celebrating an away derby win, coming from 2-0 down against the best team in the league? Weird bunch us
 

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