United (H) Post Match Thread

Psychedelic Casual said:
It seemed like half the ground were late back to seats and it was silent when the second half kicked off.

After the brilliant atmosphere in the first half, that is a huge disappointment.
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Completely agree. Far more people were late coming back for second half than usual and there was no atmosphere. Very strange after what had been a great first half.

Seems a fair few fans and sadly some of the players thought it was all done. Tough lesson to learn, but the important thing is that we do learn from it. Not the momentum we needed going in to the Liverpool game, but Pep and the players know we need a reaction. Difficult ask to still go through, but we need to make sure we win on Tuesday as a bare minimum.
 
Fuck it, let them have their day. (Which has now gone!) I'm looking forward to seeing the Cup and Premier league trophies paraded around Manchester.
 
Calmer now.

Just not forgiven Sterling yet. His performances are too erratic, ranging from world class to worthless, and too often the latter in big games. He single handedly cost us an amazing memory last night. If there’s any truth to the rumor he is stalling on his contract he can get fucked. (I will probably calm down on that too in time).

We cannot do anything about the cheating refs, but we can make sure we stick the easy chances away to make them an irrelevance.

Sterling forgets his lines at the crucial moments way too often to be trusted.
 
mad4city said:
The uncomfortable truth is that we've bottled it twice in the past week.
It's not nice to annoint scapegoats but Sterling - who wasn't trusted to start at Anfield and also fluffed two (arguably three) golden opportunities yesterday - has a shit load of improving to do, if he wants to keep his job.
Likewise, Gundogan has now gone missing twice when the pressure was on, and for all of his improvement this season, Ottamendi simply isn't up to the required quality.
Sure, we've had some shitty luck in the past two defeats but, in truth, we need to remember that you make your own luck.
I don't expect us to turn the tie around on Tuesday but it would be encoragienc if we at least gave it a proper go.
Who knows, we might get lucky if we do?
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It was the opposite to 'bottling it' v Utd.

We went out & humilliated them, then took our foot off the gas, team & fans.

When Lukaku jumped & completely missed a long ball, lump, header, just before half time, it was the most dominant I've ever seen a City team in a derby.

We thought we had it won & we fucked it up, then Atkinson helped them scrape a win. That's not 'bottling it' .
 
hammocity said:
So you admit you were wrong because the first half was the reverse of a struggle. I didn't hear anyone advocating a change in the second half and it was hardly the Manager's fault that a defensive lack of concentration cost us. As for your other post, I didn't start the abuse, Tom called Pep a twat, I was replying using the freedom of speech, I refer you to another post and suggest you listen to John Cooper Clarke's "Twat" that describes people with, shall we say, negative attitudes, their opinions rub off on other people, a bit like this forum. My life isn't perfect but I like to take the positives of day to day stuff, City winning the League and watching us win in style gives me a boost. I went to my first game in 1969 and have been going since then so if you want to call me a super blue I will gladly take it, you should say the same to yourself.
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1969? you are but a boy. anyway had Pep played our best 11 from the off we would now be champions. its that simple. we destroyed Everton last week, why change a winning team? sheer arrogance.
 
St.Pauli support said:
Sad to see Raz panic in front of the keeper, repeatedly.
Too much pressure being English and all that title winning rag hurting derby talk didn't help.

A keeper always is in trouble if you hit the corner low. Raz didn't even hit the goal ffs.

Let him score and Pep was a hero, earliest title won, in a derby, players were flying, dippers were flapping.

Now we have the opposite scenario: lost a half 3-0 AGAIN, players bottled the historical chance,
and the premature schadenfreude "shite" chants were flying back in our faces. No support from the stands when they needed it. Shame.
We're fucked basically.

(But about all that I will never forget the influence of the coach attack pre Anfield and the corrupt derby ref "what was his name".)
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What as being English got to do with it?
 
Bill said:
1969? you are but a boy. anyway had Pep played our best 11 from the off we would now be champions. its that simple. we destroyed Everton last week, why change a winning team? sheer arrogance.
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Completely agree pure arrogance
 
MichaelBBack said:
Of course people are allowed to be disappointed. They're allowed to be gutted and raging and upset and express that anger however they like, but calling the manager and the players every name under the sun and saying it's the worst moment in City's history and undermining all the incredible performances and success we've enjoyed this season is on another level (not talking about you directly, just a lot of other posters). When we win, he's a genius. When we lose, he's the scum of the earth. Everything seems to be black and white with modern football fans. Mistakes can be made and big games can be lost without the need to start insulting the manager and asking the players to hand back their wages and talking about disgraces and black marks on our history that will "never be forgotten".

We're all disappointed, of course we are, but it's beyond myopic to start turning on Pep and the squad after two bad games, even if those games had a huge amount of importance. We've broken records, we've been brilliant, we've won a cup and the league is in the bag (it's laughable that some people are suddenly doubting that after yesterday). We've got one final shot at major glory on Tuesday night. It's a faint hope but it's a hope all the same, and after all the happiness and pride we've experienced this season thanks to our manager and our team, I think they deserve a little more respect. I'll be cheering them on on Tuesday and whatever happens I'm gonna look back on this season as one of the best I've had the pleasure of experiencing.
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I agree with you. I expect us to buy a couple players in the summer, and even though it`s a big assertion, I expect us to be even better next season. Right now the odds are against us that we will go through on Tuesday, but we still have a little chance and we should all get behind the team and support them. We owe them that after this great season
 
Neville Kneville said:
It was the opposite to 'bottling it' v Utd.

We went out & humilliated them, then took our foot off the gas, team & fans.

When Lukaku jumped & completely missed a long ball, lump, header, just before half time, it was the most dominant I've ever seen a City team in a derby.

We thought we had it won & we fucked it up, then Atkinson helped them scrape a win. That's not 'bottling it' .
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The trouble with your theory is that football games are 90mins long.
We should have had the game wrapped up by half time. We didn't take our chances - and now we're reduced to whinging about the referee. Yes, it was a shocker of a mistake (Young on Aguero), by the way. But again, sometimes you just have to make your own luck.
We had every opportunity to do just that but when the hard questions were asked of us, we bottled it.
 
premierkissov said:
Yes. It's interesting to compare the responses to this derby to when we beat them at OT in April 2013. I know this had the added spice of the 3-goal comeback. But back in 2013, we weren't acting like we'd done anything amazing like the Utd fans are still doing this morning; and they weren't that bothered about getting beat like we are now. Everybody understood it was a minor consolation prize before Utd won the title. I think this is a combination of Utd fans having now acquired a small-club mentality, and some City fans still struggling to shake off theirs. We should be offering them a patronising "well done" on delaying the inevitable for a couple of weeks, exactly like they did to us back then.
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The patronising welcome is exactly what i did to my red side of the family last night, and before he arrived home from the pub i called it too my son saying ‘ he will bounce in shouting Pogba’...loh and behold he did exactly this. I just responded “congrats on getting your derby day in the sun, roles reversed now though eh as it used to be us City fans celebrating winning a derby and nothing else”

Stopped him dead in the tracks, and the reply was ‘oh only messing’....he didnt even talk about the game afterwards !!

Roles reversed completely
 
mad4city said:
The trouble with your theory is that football games are 90mins long.
We should have had the game wrapped up by half time. We didn't take our chances - and now we're reduced to whinging about the referee. Yes, it was a shocker of a mistake (Young on Aguero), by the way. But again, sometimes you just have to make your own luck.
We had every opportunity to do just that but when the hard questions were asked of us, we bottled it.
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I'm specifically talking about the 2nd half.

Crowd & players came out as if it was easy. That's not bottling it, it is arrogance.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I'm specifically talking about the 2nd half.

Crowd & players came out as if it was easy. That's not bottling it, it is arrogance.
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Gotta agree man. Complacency kicked in. Even i thought it was over. Atmosphere was fantastic in the first 45 mins though
 
allan harper said:
What as being English got to do with it?
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Having a different awareness of the importance of this match. Mainly for the fans, the Blues.
For me, not being English, but all for City, didn't experience the pain of several decades, mainly caused by rag banter as it seems to me.
Raz did have tons of burden on his shoulders and he failed to do what he showed to be capable of many times before.
It was in his head, he was not free in that moment. Maybe I fail to explain, but you might guess what I mean.

But it was not my main point, so I will admit, the individual personality is way more important in such a big situation than nationality, of course.
 
Are we actually moaning at them celebrating an away derby win, coming from 2-0 down against the best team in the league? Weird bunch us
 
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