United States Of America

American sports have never had to start a campaign to rid the leagues of racism from its players and fans.
 
metalblue said:
Tell me why is it a country needs an amendment to it's constituation to stop it behaving like a dickhead towards its fellow man based on the colour of their skin? .

That's weird wasn't there a civil rights movement around the same time as ours ,in the uk which led to laws being passed to stop people discriminating against people based on the color of their skin? Or are you that racist you don't consider Jamaicans as people?
 
rick773 said:
metalblue said:
Tell me why is it a country needs an amendment to it's constituation to stop it behaving like a dickhead towards its fellow man based on the colour of their skin? .

That's weird wasn't there a civil rights movement around the same time as ours ,in the uk which led to laws being passed to stop people discriminating against people based on the color of their skin? Or are you that racist you don't consider Jamaicans as people?

Well aren't you a live one....how the fuck did you managed to deduce I was racist from that post? I never said or pretend the UK is some bastion of decency...but it's not pretending to be either is it?
 
metalblue said:
prairiemoon said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
That is generally more an east coast and Californian trait
The Midwest is littered with towns, often very small, that are extremely proud of their heritage. Farming communities started by Dutch, Czech, German, etc immigrants still celebrate that heritage with pride. The US is a relatively young country made of a multitude of ethnicities which have not been forgotten.

The US does not struggle for a national identity. Our identity is one of multiculturalism. One does not claim to be Afro-, Irish-, Native-, etc out of feelings of inadequacy. It is out of respect and pride of a families heritage. To suggest otherwise is extremely disrespectful. The land of the free and the home of the brave is a reference to the persecution and oppression many immigrants came here to escape. It has nothing to do with bragging about some delusional image of ourselves.

I'd respectfully suggest that to see symbolic ethinicty as something universally enjoyed is probably flawed. For whites you have a point that it can be seen as being respectful towards their origins but for non-whites it has been shown to have the inverse effect and is found to be both irrelevant and disrespecful. Nonetheless it doesn't really answer the question as to why a 4th/5th generation immigrant would choose to refer to themselves by ethinicty but it might be little more than a family tradition. You make the point that America doesn't struggle with a national identity, I'm not so sure, and maybe given the diverse mix of people having a single national identity might prove impossible.

I take on board the point the historical perspective of "land of the free" although I personally don't see it as being universally applicable today.
I haven't suggested that symbolic ethnicity is universally enjoyed. Id rather not take the time here to distinguish between assimilated/ acculturated 3rd gen immigrants who pick and choose enjoyable aspects of their ethnicity, those who use ethnicity as a defense mechanism in an unjust society, and those more recent with direct connections to the material aspects of their ethnicity.
 
Calling you racist was meant as a lighthearted joke to show I was having a friendly conversation and not trying to be a dick, missed the mark I guess ... I don't think you'd find many Americans that think it's perfect or deny its a sinking ship.. Its Just not the fox news caricature were pictured as in the world.
 
ManCityTiger said:
American sports have never had to start a campaign to rid the leagues of racism from its players and fans.

Black+Panther+salute+1968+Olympics.jpg
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
ManCityTiger said:
American sports have never had to start a campaign to rid the leagues of racism from its players and fans.

Black+Panther+salute+1968+Olympics.jpg

Technically aren't they racists?

Checked they are not, I'm a ****

Apparently the Black Panther group was interested in Black Nationalism to begin with, but phased the idea out pretty quickly. The New Black Panther group is a fucking disgrace however.
 
rick773 said:
Calling you racist was meant as a lighthearted joke to show I was having a friendly conversation and not trying to be a dick, missed the mark I guess ... I don't think you'd find many Americans that think it's perfect or deny its a sinking ship.. Its Just not the fox news caricature were pictured as in the world.

Yes we don't tend to joke about being a racist but no harm done mate
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
ManCityTiger said:
American sports have never had to start a campaign to rid the leagues of racism from its players and fans.

Black+Panther+salute+1968+Olympics.jpg

Technically aren't they racists?

Checked they are not, I'm a ****

Did you not look closely at the pic ;)

[bigimg]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7272/7604382536_de0b90253c.jpg[/bigimg]
 

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