United thread 2012/13 (inc merged IPO thread)

[Football guy]

don't we need this to succeed? surely an unsuccessful offer leads us a step nearer to the glazers relinquishing ownership of the club?

<br /><br />-- Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:33 pm --<br /><br />

don't we need this to succeed? surely an unsuccessful offer leads us a step nearer to the glazers relinquishing ownership of the club?

Either way , united's future is definitely better financially , once they offload the debt or bring it down , they will easily flex their muscles and still remain in profit with their huge commercial income , i am actually in awe of their commercial income , glazers are one of the best business guys around to be true , thats one branch where we need to look at , we need to make those small deals with companies across the globe which make a difference in the financial statement , so glazers not the worst thing that happened to them

 

[oakiecokie]

Re: Just seen on Twitter - made me titter.

Hi@PhilJones just a quick question. United signed you but City signed Kun Aguero....how do you think it feels to be City?

Haha, I bet he is seriously considering the question

He probably wont understand the fucker.

 

[VOOMER]

don't we need this to succeed? surely an unsuccessful offer leads us a step nearer to the glazers relinquishing ownership of the club?

-- Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:33 pm --

don't we need this to succeed? surely an unsuccessful offer leads us a step nearer to the glazers relinquishing ownership of the club?

Either way , united's future is definitely better financially , once they offload the debt or bring it down , they will easily flex their muscles and still remain in profit with their huge commercial income , i am actually in awe of their commercial income , glazers are one of the best business guys around to be true , thats one branch where we need to look at , we need to make those small deals with companies across the globe which make a difference in the financial statement , so glazers not the worst thing that happened to them

Its great to see United fans on here

 

[Football guy]

don't we need this to succeed? surely an unsuccessful offer leads us a step nearer to the glazers relinquishing ownership of the club?

-- Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:33 pm --

don't we need this to succeed? surely an unsuccessful offer leads us a step nearer to the glazers relinquishing ownership of the club?

Either way , united's future is definitely better financially , once they offload the debt or bring it down , they will easily flex their muscles and still remain in profit with their huge commercial income , i am actually in awe of their commercial income , glazers are one of the best business guys around to be true , thats one branch where we need to look at , we need to make those small deals with companies across the globe which make a difference in the financial statement , so glazers not the worst thing that happened to them

Its great to see United fans on here

Lol , this is exactly what i hoped to see in response here , but i am not a ****/dick like you who lacks sense to see the truth . i don't see how you can disagree on their sucess in commercial terms

I will die before i support them , trust me on that

 

[I Hart Man City]

-- Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:33 pm --



Either way , united's future is definitely better financially , once they offload the debt or bring it down , they will easily flex their muscles and still remain in profit with their huge commercial income , i am actually in awe of their commercial income , glazers are one of the best business guys around to be true , thats one branch where we need to look at , we need to make those small deals with companies across the globe which make a difference in the financial statement , so glazers not the worst thing that happened to them

Its great to see United fans on here

Lol , this is exactly what i hoped to see in response here , but i am not a ****/dick like you who lacks sense to see the truth . i don't see how you can disagree on their sucess in commercial terms

I will die before i support them , trust me on that

Are you sure about that? You're quite offensive with practically no provocation.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Lol , this is exactly what i hoped to see in response here , but i am not a ****/dick like you who lacks sense to see the truth .

No need for that.

 

[stony]

Lol , this is exactly what i hoped to see in response here , but i am not a ****/dick like you who lacks sense to see the truth .

No need for that.

Beat me to it. I'll go and update the thread.

 

[JM Mcr]

don't we need this to succeed?

surely an unsuccessful offer leads us a step nearer to the glazers relinquishing ownership of the club?

Either way , united's future is definitely better financially , once they offload the debt or bring it down , they will easily flex their muscles and still remain in profit with their huge commercial income , i am actually in awe of their commercial income , glazers are one of the best business guys around to be true , thats one branch where we need to look at , we need to make those small deals with companies across the globe which make a difference in the financial statement , so glazers not the worst thing that happened to them

If your barometer of good owners is having the ability to drive up commercial revenues then I agree, on the face of it the Glazers could have been good for the club.

Having said that, before labelling them as "not the worst thing to happen to Utd" we need to remember they turned a previously debt free club into one saddled with crippling, possibly even fatal, levels of debt (they still have a long long way to go to pull off the juggling act of getting the club debt free again, if they're ever going to do so), have seen well in excess of £300m net (taking account of the tax and dividends that a debt free Utd would presumably have paid out anyway) frittered away on servicing "their" debt, plus additional fees paid to themselves.

Glazer apologists also point to the continued on-field success Utd have enjoyed since the takeover, as some sort of vindication for their ownership model. I'm not sure how much of the on-field success is as a result of the Glazers tho, or to look from another angle I'm sure a debt free Utd, under Ferguson, would have won at least as much over that period.

The real crux of it tho has to be what impact they have had on the club's support. Since the takeover they have alienated or forced out huge numbers of Utd's traditional support through their aggressive marketing of the club and incessant price rises, all to help pay for THEIR leveraged buyout. Speaking personally I was eventually priced out after over 30 years of watching matches at Old Trafford, I doubt my children will ever get to see a home game whilst the gimps are still in charge (unless they can afford it from their own spends cos Daddy certainly won't be paying anymore), many of my friends have reluctantly given up as well. The Glazers' short sighted policies have come close (if not already done) to losing one generation of match going mancunians to Utd, and denying the next generation of match going mancunians the opportunity to even start going to matches. One hell of a legacy so, sorry mate but personally I do think they're the worst thing that's ever happened to Utd. I can see tho why some none match going Utd fans, and most opposition fans, may think they're pretty good owners

 

[Football guy]

Its great to see United fans on here

Lol , this is exactly what i hoped to see in response here , but i am not a ****/dick like you who lacks sense to see the truth . i don't see how you can disagree on their sucess in commercial terms

I will die before i support them , trust me on that

Are you sure about that? You're quite offensive with practically no provocation.

I don't get provoked by someone calling me names , but someone calling me a united fan does provoke me

 

[Stoned Rose]

Lol , this is exactly what i hoped to see in response here , but i am not a ****/dick like you who lacks sense to see the truth . i don't see how you can disagree on their sucess in commercial terms

I will die before i support them , trust me on that

Are you sure about that? You're quite offensive with practically no provocation.

I don't get provoked by someone calling me names , but someone calling me a united fan does provoke me