20,000 Empty Seats.....
Oh dear.....
http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-how-many-people-actually-go-to-old-trafford/#more-3281
Oh dear.....
http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-how-many-people-actually-go-to-old-trafford/#more-3281
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dave_blue12
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Re: 20,000 Empty Seats.....
For those not wishing to risk infection I have copy and pasted in the United thread ;-)
For those not wishing to risk infection I have copy and pasted in the United thread ;-)
Tim of the Oak
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Re: 20,000 Empty Seats.....
Magnificent!!
Where are the other 659 million?
Magnificent!!
Where are the other 659 million?
The jewel!
And we thought it was empty 30,000 seats. When in reality it was..........
43,000 empty seats.
I sincerely hope this <a class="postlink" href="http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-how-many-people-actually-go-to-old-trafford/#more-3281" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-ho ... #more-3281</a> will be passed on to fellow Blues around the interweb. Another Rag lie/myth busted.
"20,000 empty seats are you f***ing sure?!" No it's actually more at the *Theatre of Empty Seats*
And we thought it was empty 30,000 seats. When in reality it was..........
Date Opponents Actual attendance given by GMP Official attendance given by MUFC
26-Sep-12 Newcastle United 33,409 46,358
43,000 empty seats.
I sincerely hope this <a class="postlink" href="http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-how-many-people-actually-go-to-old-trafford/#more-3281" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-ho ... #more-3281</a> will be passed on to fellow Blues around the interweb. Another Rag lie/myth busted.
"20,000 empty seats are you f***ing sure?!" No it's actually more at the *Theatre of Empty Seats*
Re: 20,000 Empty Seats.....
Fucking massive!
LoveCity said:33,409 vs. Newcastle... 42,000 empty seats, good gawd!
Fucking massive!
jrb said:The jewel!
And we thought it was empty 30,000 seats. When in reality it was..........
Date Opponents Actual attendance given by GMP Official attendance given by MUFC
26-Sep-12 Newcastle United 33,409 46,358
43,000 empty seats.
I sincerely hope this <a class="postlink" href="http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-how-many-people-actually-go-to-old-trafford/#more-3281" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-ho ... #more-3281</a> will be passed on to fellow Blues around the interweb. Another Rag lie/myth busted.
"20,000 empty seats are you f***ing sure?!" No it's actually more at the *Theatre of Empty Seats*
Our figures are due to be published on that site in the coming weeks, so I wouldn't get too excited.
stony said:jrb said:The jewel!
And we thought it was empty 30,000 seats. When in reality it was..........
Date Opponents Actual attendance given by GMP Official attendance given by MUFC
26-Sep-12 Newcastle United 33,409 46,358
43,000 empty seats.
I sincerely hope this <a class="postlink" href="http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-how-many-people-actually-go-to-old-trafford/#more-3281" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-ho ... #more-3281</a> will be passed on to fellow Blues around the interweb. Another Rag lie/myth busted.
"20,000 empty seats are you f***ing sure?!" No it's actually more at the *Theatre of Empty Seats*
Our figures are due to be published on that site in the coming weeks, so I wouldn't get too excited.
They won't be that bad.
If nothing else it shows how desperate they are to deflect from their figures.
JoeMercer'sWay
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Works out at a PL average attendance of 86.6%, CL of 78.1%, Carling Cup of 44.1% and FA cup of 75.1%. So nearly 15% of the stadium is empty on a PL matchday, over 20% on the CL on average, over 50% in the Carling Cup and 1/4 for the FA Cup.
I don't think ours will be too flattering either 2bh.
I don't think ours will be too flattering either 2bh.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/...-united-attendances-police-figures?CMP=twt_gu
Manchester United declare attendances far higher than police figures
• Average disparity between club and police figures is 10,000
• Club count tickets sold rather than fans through turnstiles
Manchester United are adding as many as 24,000 fans on to crowd attendances compared with the actual number of people watching games at Old Trafford, according to police data.
Sir Alex Ferguson's team have not had a single crowd over 70,000 for a league match, not taking in Monday's game against Manchester City. The club, in contrast, recorded attendances in excess of 75,000 every time. Instead Greater Manchester police's figures claim the average crowd for league matches, excluding City, is 10,000 below what the club say. The police records state it is 65,601 rather than the official figure of 75,527. In all competitions it is 61,739 rather than the club's 73,653.
United are still the best-supported club in England by some distance but the new set of figures claim Old Trafford was not even half-full for the Capital One Cup tie against Newcastle in September. The police recorded the number of people who passed through the turnstiles at 33,409. United gave the crowd as 46,358. In the next round, against West Ham, the disparity was even bigger. The police put down the crowd as 51,724, whereas United recorded it as 71,081.
When United played Cluj in the Champions League in December, having qualified for the knockout stages, the crowd was announced as 71,521. In fact, the police say it was 46,894.
The disparity is because United, in common with other clubs, release the number of people who bought tickets, whether or not they attend. The police keep their own record of actual match-goers for safety purposes and have released the data to the Redsaway fans' website under the Freedom of Information Act.
The figures show the high number of supporters who will buy tickets for matches without going. Arsenal are among the clubs who suffer the same problem on a large scale.
United's largest crowd of the season for a league match, according to the police, was 69,933 for Liverpool's visit in January (the club put it at 75,501). The lowest was against Southampton later that month. On that occasion the official attendance was given at 75,600 when, according to the police, the genuine figure was 59,766. In other words, almost 16,000 ticket-holders stayed away.
The Real Madrid match in the Champions League attracted the one 70,000-plus attendance at Old Trafford this season, in the data. The police recorded it at 72,299 whereas United declared it was 74,959, lower than any domestic league match because of Uefa's seating restrictions.
Manchester United declare attendances far higher than police figures
• Average disparity between club and police figures is 10,000
• Club count tickets sold rather than fans through turnstiles
Manchester United are adding as many as 24,000 fans on to crowd attendances compared with the actual number of people watching games at Old Trafford, according to police data.
Sir Alex Ferguson's team have not had a single crowd over 70,000 for a league match, not taking in Monday's game against Manchester City. The club, in contrast, recorded attendances in excess of 75,000 every time. Instead Greater Manchester police's figures claim the average crowd for league matches, excluding City, is 10,000 below what the club say. The police records state it is 65,601 rather than the official figure of 75,527. In all competitions it is 61,739 rather than the club's 73,653.
United are still the best-supported club in England by some distance but the new set of figures claim Old Trafford was not even half-full for the Capital One Cup tie against Newcastle in September. The police recorded the number of people who passed through the turnstiles at 33,409. United gave the crowd as 46,358. In the next round, against West Ham, the disparity was even bigger. The police put down the crowd as 51,724, whereas United recorded it as 71,081.
When United played Cluj in the Champions League in December, having qualified for the knockout stages, the crowd was announced as 71,521. In fact, the police say it was 46,894.
The disparity is because United, in common with other clubs, release the number of people who bought tickets, whether or not they attend. The police keep their own record of actual match-goers for safety purposes and have released the data to the Redsaway fans' website under the Freedom of Information Act.
The figures show the high number of supporters who will buy tickets for matches without going. Arsenal are among the clubs who suffer the same problem on a large scale.
United's largest crowd of the season for a league match, according to the police, was 69,933 for Liverpool's visit in January (the club put it at 75,501). The lowest was against Southampton later that month. On that occasion the official attendance was given at 75,600 when, according to the police, the genuine figure was 59,766. In other words, almost 16,000 ticket-holders stayed away.
The Real Madrid match in the Champions League attracted the one 70,000-plus attendance at Old Trafford this season, in the data. The police recorded it at 72,299 whereas United declared it was 74,959, lower than any domestic league match because of Uefa's seating restrictions.
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