United thread 2013/14

[moomba]

Jonny Evans has blamed an attacking mindset for their poor results at home.

12 goals from 10 at home this season, something not quite right there.

 

[citysix]

Ferguson is to blame, not Moyes.

Ferguson's strength of mind, a characteristic that carried united to the title last season more than any other factor, including the signing of Van Persie, is proving their undoing this season.

Sergio's goal made him so consumed with reclaiming the title from us, that he became blinded to all other considerations and because of the power he wielded at that club he was allowed to do so without any consideration of the wider consequences of failing to rebuild as he had done so many times before. It has been apparent for some time, for example, that united's back four in particular was collectively reaching a tipping point due to nothing more than the sands of time doing their stuff.

When any Empire is built so intimately around one individual it creates the duel problem of no-one to question their bidding when they're there and no-one to adequately replace them when they're gone. united's succession planning has been truly appalling, another example of Ferguson's malign influence on the club, to contrast, in fairness with all that he delivered over an incredible 26 years.

The aura of invincibility that surrounded that club for a couple of decades has evaporated in the space of six months. The best example of this is referees, who previously, when making split second decisions would, more often than not, favour united due in no small part to the looming presence of Ferguson. Now, possibly harbouring subconscious feelings of resentment about being imposed upon by him, they seem to be going the opposite way. Once a bully loses its air of invincibility they don't tend to be treated too charitably by those who have suffered at their hands.

This really does have a decline of an Empire feel about it and the best thing is, like the decline of any other such body in human history, once those wheels start turning they are almost impossible to stop.

They aren't going away, they're too big a club for that to present a realistic prospect, but their days lording it over the rest of English football are finished and there's a certain poetic beauty about the fact that process this was accelerated by Ferguson's overwhelming desire to go out a winner.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

This! Give this guy cigar. ..

 

[Ducado]

One the things that many Rags are starting to notice is that he is busy turning them into Everton Mark 2, both in style and results, then again that is all he knows what were they expecting, be brought his own staff with him

They are not happy, it's brilliant watching them and their pals in the media squirm trying to convince each other that everything will be OK, like shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic

 

[2sheikhs]

dont know if its bullshit i caught this from a united fan in the pub, he says there going to flog the naming rights for the swamp this summer to fund a major overhaul of playing staff but its crucial they finnish in the top 4 to get the correct deal, moyes wont be given a penny he's down the road, if its true how much could they raise from this?

Don't know tbh, if it was a new stadium I'd say plenty, but the name is associated with it, so 'old trafford' will have to be kept in some shape or form, still plenty of excuse to slag the *****. anyone want to get a syndicate together and put in a bid to have it officially renamed 'The Swamp'?

Please,please,please be the "Kotex panty liner stadium"

 

[TCIB]

Ferguson is to blame, not Moyes.

Ferguson's strength of mind, a characteristic that carried united to the title last season more than any other factor, including the signing of Van Persie, is proving their undoing this season.

Sergio's goal made him so consumed with reclaiming the title from us, that he became blinded to all other considerations and because of the power he wielded at that club he was allowed to do so without any consideration of the wider consequences of failing to rebuild as he had done so many times before. It has been apparent for some time, for example, that united's back four in particular was collectively reaching a tipping point due to nothing more than the sands of time doing their stuff.

When any Empire is built so intimately around one individual it creates the duel problem of no-one to question their bidding when they're there and no-one to adequately replace them when they're gone. united's succession planning has been truly appalling, another example of Ferguson's malign influence on the club, to contrast, in fairness with all that he delivered over an incredible 26 years.

The aura of invincibility that surrounded that club for a couple of decades has evaporated in the space of six months. The best example of this is referees, who previously, when making split second decisions would, more often than not, favour united due in no small part to the looming presence of Ferguson. Now, possibly harbouring subconscious feelings of resentment about being imposed upon by him, they seem to be going the opposite way. Once a bully loses its air of invincibility they don't tend to be treated too charitably by those who have suffered at their hands.

This really does have a decline of an Empire feel about it and the best thing is, like the decline of any other such body in human history, once those wheels start turning they are almost impossible to stop.

They aren't going away, they're too big a club for that to present a realistic prospect, but their days lording it over the rest of English football are finished and there's a certain poetic beauty about the fact that process this was accelerated by Ferguson's overwhelming desire to go out a winner.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

This! Give this guy cigar. ..

He would prefer a bottle of bollinger or pol roger tbh.

A fine post GDM, a fine post.

 

[waspish]

Last time the rags have lost 4 games at home was 51 years ago someone one 5live said can't believe that

 

[johnny on the spot]

 

[deano ou812]

dont know if its bullshit i caught this from a united fan in the pub, he says there going to flog the naming rights for the swamp this summer to fund a major overhaul of playing staff but its crucial they finnish in the top 4 to get the correct deal, moyes wont be given a penny he's down the road, if its true how much could they raise from this?

Don't know tbh, if it was a new stadium I'd say plenty, but the name is associated with it, so 'old trafford' will have to be kept in some shape or form, still plenty of excuse to slag the *****. anyone want to get a syndicate together and put in a bid to have it officially renamed 'The Swamp'?

Please,please,please be the "Kotex panty liner stadium"

Armitage shanks would be a good one,as its already a shithole...

 

[VOOMER]

They can fade away, Fungus for most of his tenure was able to outbid his rivals and also hoover up youth players at will a Zaha, or Jones(snigger), would have been secured without paying £2 million, let alone £20 million. We are the straw that broke the camels back. Going up against Chelski, difficult, but not impossible. Going up against a better run and more affluent City and Chelski, very, very difficult. Throw in the TV deal which means the other EPL teams will be less likely to be bullied into selling their star players a reduced fee. the improved quality of the opposition due their increased transfer budgets and they are no longer able to coast games due to the feeble attitude of the managers, or weak squads. Take bully boy out the equation, they are suddenly going to find a very chill wind blowing down their necks.

 

[wayne71]

Ferguson is to blame, not Moyes.

Ferguson's strength of mind, a characteristic that carried united to the title last season more than any other factor, including the signing of Van Persie, is proving their undoing this season.

Sergio's goal made him so consumed with reclaiming the title from us, that he became blinded to all other considerations and because of the power he wielded at that club he was allowed to do so without any consideration of the wider consequences of failing to rebuild as he had done so many times before. It has been apparent for some time, for example, that united's back four in particular was collectively reaching a tipping point due to nothing more than the sands of time doing their stuff.

When any Empire is built so intimately around one individual it creates the duel problem of no-one to question their bidding when they're there and no-one to adequately replace them when they're gone. united's succession planning has been truly appalling, another example of Ferguson's malign influence on the club, to contrast, in fairness with all that he delivered over an incredible 26 years.

The aura of invincibility that surrounded that club for a couple of decades has evaporated in the space of six months. The best example of this is referees, who previously, when making split second decisions would, more often than not, favour united due in no small part to the looming presence of Ferguson. Now, possibly harbouring subconscious feelings of resentment about being imposed upon by him, they seem to be going the opposite way. Once a bully loses its air of invincibility they don't tend to be treated too charitably by those who have suffered at their hands.

This really does have a decline of an Empire feel about it and the best thing is, like the decline of any other such body in human history, once those wheels start turning they are almost impossible to stop.

They aren't going away, they're too big a club for that to present a realistic prospect, but their days lording it over the rest of English football are finished and there's a certain poetic beauty about the fact that process this was accelerated by Ferguson's overwhelming desire to go out a winner.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

Great post GDM.