United thread 2013/14

[the plasterer]

Where would Rooney go to and who would pay 250k a week on a 5 year deal anyway especially with FFP?

Chelsea PSG Monaco?

Chelsea would, offering mata in return i

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

oh dear

The words ''Rats leaving a sinking ship spring to mind here''

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Has Amy club of a comparable stature as us declined in the very recent past? I'm not worried that there will be a long term decline. Short term underperforming is part of the game and we'll have to either rode it through or support another club.

 

[TCIB]

In the murky world of file sharing i can say thus...

Utd win = 200 downloads
Utd lose = 9 downloads

City matches are consistently steady win or lose with a general increase of around 5%pm on downloaders.
We avg 100 downloads win or lose but this increases with every match.

Encouragingly these downloads originate from asia and south america more and more so our marketing and success is working.
I do not have all the facts and figures that our suits have but i can see a definite trend in the positive.
Our nordic cousins are also taking a fancy to us.

Note for downloaders::
Currently have time to config my servers so they will be up banging out city matches soon.
One server i bought is in the usa so i have a dedicated line from servers here to their so i can serve our American fans faster.
In a year or so i reckon i will have the largest city archive available outside of city's servers on a fully dedicated backbone line.

 

[citycanada]

If they actually land someone in jan I am sure the price reported will be far lower than actually paid.

 

[mcmanus]

Ferguson is to blame, not Moyes.

Ferguson's strength of mind, a characteristic that carried united to the title last season more than any other factor, including the signing of Van Persie, is proving their undoing this season.

Sergio's goal made him so consumed with reclaiming the title from us, that he became blinded to all other considerations and because of the power he wielded at that club he was allowed to do so without any consideration of the wider consequences of failing to rebuild as he had done so many times before. It has been apparent for some time, for example, that united's back four in particular was collectively reaching a tipping point due to nothing more than the sands of time doing their stuff.

When any Empire is built so intimately around one individual it creates the duel problem of no-one to question their bidding when they're there and no-one to adequately replace them when they're gone. united's succession planning has been truly appalling, another example of Ferguson's malign influence on the club, to contrast, in fairness with all that he delivered over an incredible 26 years.

The aura of invincibility that surrounded that club for a couple of decades has evaporated in the space of six months. The best example of this is referees, who previously, when making split second decisions would, more often than not, favour united due in no small part to the looming presence of Ferguson. Now, possibly harbouring subconscious feelings of resentment about being imposed upon by him, they seem to be going the opposite way. Once a bully loses its air of invincibility they don't tend to be treated too charitably by those who have suffered at their hands.

This really does have a decline of an Empire feel about it and the best thing is, like the decline of any other such body in human history, once those wheels start turning they are almost impossible to stop.

They aren't going away, they're too big a club for that to present a realistic prospect, but their days lording it over the rest of English football are finished and there's a certain poetic beauty about the fact that process this was accelerated by Ferguson's overwhelming desire to go out a winner.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

Once again you articulate what's in my head into one post.

Blues take the time to read that.

 

[the blue panther]

Ferguson is to blame, not Moyes.

Ferguson's strength of mind, a characteristic that carried united to the title last season more than any other factor, including the signing of Van Persie, is proving their undoing this season.

Sergio's goal made him so consumed with reclaiming the title from us, that he became blinded to all other considerations and because of the power he wielded at that club he was allowed to do so without any consideration of the wider consequences of failing to rebuild as he had done so many times before. It has been apparent for some time, for example, that united's back four in particular was collectively reaching a tipping point due to nothing more than the sands of time doing their stuff.

When any Empire is built so intimately around one individual it creates the duel problem of no-one to question their bidding when they're there and no-one to adequately replace them when they're gone. united's succession planning has been truly appalling, another example of Ferguson's malign influence on the club, to contrast, in fairness with all that he delivered over an incredible 26 years.

The aura of invincibility that surrounded that club for a couple of decades has evaporated in the space of six months. The best example of this is referees, who previously, when making split second decisions would, more often than not, favour united due in no small part to the looming presence of Ferguson. Now, possibly harbouring subconscious feelings of resentment about being imposed upon by him, they seem to be going the opposite way. Once a bully loses its air of invincibility they don't tend to be treated too charitably by those who have suffered at their hands.

This really does have a decline of an Empire feel about it and the best thing is, like the decline of any other such body in human history, once those wheels start turning they are almost impossible to stop.

They aren't going away, they're too big a club for that to present a realistic prospect, but their days lording it over the rest of English football are finished and there's a certain poetic beauty about the fact that process this was accelerated by Ferguson's overwhelming desire to go out a winner.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

Excellent Summary

Seems like an analogy of Tolkien's 'Lord of the Rings' with the twist being that Gollum's taken over at Mordor after Sauron's departure.

 

[mcmanus]

Ferguson is to blame, not Moyes.

Ferguson's strength of mind, a characteristic that carried united to the title last season more than any other factor, including the signing of Van Persie, is proving their undoing this season.

Sergio's goal made him so consumed with reclaiming the title from us, that he became blinded to all other considerations and because of the power he wielded at that club he was allowed to do so without any consideration of the wider consequences of failing to rebuild as he had done so many times before. It has been apparent for some time, for example, that united's back four in particular was collectively reaching a tipping point due to nothing more than the sands of time doing their stuff.

When any Empire is built so intimately around one individual it creates the duel problem of no-one to question their bidding when they're there and no-one to adequately replace them when they're gone. united's succession planning has been truly appalling, another example of Ferguson's malign influence on the club, to contrast, in fairness with all that he delivered over an incredible 26 years.

The aura of invincibility that surrounded that club for a couple of decades has evaporated in the space of six months. The best example of this is referees, who previously, when making split second decisions would, more often than not, favour united due in no small part to the looming presence of Ferguson. Now, possibly harbouring subconscious feelings of resentment about being imposed upon by him, they seem to be going the opposite way. Once a bully loses its air of invincibility they don't tend to be treated too charitably by those who have suffered at their hands.

This really does have a decline of an Empire feel about it and the best thing is, like the decline of any other such body in human history, once those wheels start turning they are almost impossible to stop.

They aren't going away, they're too big a club for that to present a realistic prospect, but their days lording it over the rest of English football are finished and there's a certain poetic beauty about the fact that process this was accelerated by Ferguson's overwhelming desire to go out a winner.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

Once again you articulate what's in my head into one post.

Blues take the time to read that.

 

[LoveCity]

The solution for United isn't that hard. They DO still have enough money to stay competitive, they made a balls up of their transfer business but did file big money offers for players like Fabregas.

Solution: Sack the dinosaur with his "play not to lose" tactics and hire a modern coach who can do away with their antiquated football style. When you watch City/Liverpool/Arsenal then watch United, the difference is staggering. We look like modern teams, they look stuck in the past.

Someone like Simeone at United would keep them quite strong. Frank de Boer would even be a step up from Moyes.

Personally, I hope they stand by their 'values' and give Moyes the full 6 years or so. He'll get them top 4 regularly and challenge for the title now and then, but as long as he is there they will underachieve.

 

[Daz_Blue]

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Another made up story ?

 

[Ban-jani]

Ferguson is to blame, not Moyes.

Ferguson's strength of mind, a characteristic that carried united to the title last season more than any other factor, including the signing of Van Persie, is proving their undoing this season.

Sergio's goal made him so consumed with reclaiming the title from us, that he became blinded to all other considerations and because of the power he wielded at that club he was allowed to do so without any consideration of the wider consequences of failing to rebuild as he had done so many times before. It has been apparent for some time, for example, that united's back four in particular was collectively reaching a tipping point due to nothing more than the sands of time doing their stuff.

When any Empire is built so intimately around one individual it creates the duel problem of no-one to question their bidding when they're there and no-one to adequately replace them when they're gone. united's succession planning has been truly appalling, another example of Ferguson's malign influence on the club, to contrast, in fairness with all that he delivered over an incredible 26 years.

The aura of invincibility that surrounded that club for a couple of decades has evaporated in the space of six months. The best example of this is referees, who previously, when making split second decisions would, more often than not, favour united due in no small part to the looming presence of Ferguson. Now, possibly harbouring subconscious feelings of resentment about being imposed upon by him, they seem to be going the opposite way. Once a bully loses its air of invincibility they don't tend to be treated too charitably by those who have suffered at their hands.

This really does have a decline of an Empire feel about it and the best thing is, like the decline of any other such body in human history, once those wheels start turning they are almost impossible to stop.

They aren't going away, they're too big a club for that to present a realistic prospect, but their days lording it over the rest of English football are finished and there's a certain poetic beauty about the fact that process this was accelerated by Ferguson's overwhelming desire to go out a winner.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

superb post.