United thread 2013/14

[Len Rum]

I wonder if Chelsea have come calling again?
Normally Rags wouldn't sell him to a rival club, but in the short term at least Chelsea are no longer their rivals and if the Rags are going to cash in they have to do so now.

 

[kippaxblue76]

Wayne Rooney sent on warm weather training by Manchester United to overcome groin injury

Manchester United and England striker Wayne Rooney sent with family and fitness coach to recover from injury that has kept him out of action since New Year's Day





Wayne Rooney faces defining six months for Manchester United and England

Wayne Rooney has not played since Manchester United's defeat to Tottenham on New Year's Day Photo: ACTION IMAGES








By Telegraph Sport

2:00PM GMT 10 Jan 2014



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Wayne Rooney has been sent on warm weather training in an attempt to overcome his groin injury.


The Manchester United forward has not played since the 2-1 defeat to Tottenham Hotspur on New Year's Day. It had been hoped he would return for this weekend's match with Swansea but that has been dashed. Instead Rooney has been sent away for a period of recovery with his family and a club fitness coach.


"Wayne has been sent away on a sort of hot weather break," Moyes said. "His groin has not recovered yet.


"We have sent the fitness coach with him and he is away with his family. We've given him a bit of a break, I always hoped I would be able to do it at some point in the season but his groin is not as good as we hoped at this point.


"Hopefully we will get him fit for Chelsea and we will see how he is. He will do some work with the fitness coach."


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United have been on a terrible run, losing three consecutive matches for the first time since 2001, and Moyes confirmed that Robin van Persie, who has been out with a thigh problem since December 10, is also not yet ready to return to the first team.

"Robin is not available yet, he is going to be a little bit away," Moyes said. "We will hope they get back quicker."

Rooney's long-term future is in some doubt, with Chelsea confident they can secure his signing at the end of the season, with his United contract set to expire next summer.

 

[bobmcfc]

Do we know where in the states he's gone?

Last time (nov 2010) they packed him off to fat camp in Portland

Dubai was when he was in the doghouse with Colleen over cheating on her.

 

[TCIB]

Could be United's last game without Shrek or RVR this weekend, so hopefully Swansea do a double over them. How hilarious would it be if they lost to the same mid-table team twice in a week at the swamp?

I can see them becoming more consistent in the second half if they can keep those two fit. I was glad to hear Garay is joining them in June and not January, though, as he'd improve their defence, and we don't want the rags suddenly improving a lot if we're to face them at Wembley.

When you know your season is not far from over and a bad one at that those injuries can magically pop up much more frequently.

I would not be surprised if the dutch docs have told RVP "don't put yourself out, if clubs see you are really fit at the end of the season your transfer to another club would be much smoother".
Or something to that effect, probably nonsense but many rumours of him wanting out so that would imo be prudent.
Don't stretch yourself just do what you have to and no more, kinda thing.

Back in reality land i do think the chances of them both now going injury free until the seasons end is slim.

 

[andyhinch]

Do we know where in the states he's gone?

Last time (nov 2010) they packed him off to fat camp in Portland

Dubai was when he was in the doghouse with Colleen over cheating on her.

I thought it was freezing in Portland

 

[gazbaz]

Very nice of Wee Davey to admit that he's trying to get the fat scouser 'fit for Chelsea'. I would have thought they would do the deal on a sort of sold as seen basis.

 

[blueian99]

Could be United's last game without Shrek or RVR this weekend, so hopefully Swansea do a double over them. How hilarious would it be if they lost to the same mid-table team twice in a week at the swamp?

I can see them becoming more consistent in the second half if they can keep those two fit. I was glad to hear Garay is joining them in June and not January, though, as he'd improve their defence, and we don't want the rags suddenly improving a lot if we're to face them at Wembley.

When you know your season is not far from over and a bad one at that those injuries can magically pop up much more frequently.

I would not be surprised if the dutch docs have told RVP "don't put yourself out, if clubs see you are really fit at the end of the season your transfer to another club would be much smoother".
Or something to that effect, probably nonsense but many rumours of him wanting out so that would imo be prudent.
Don't stretch yourself just do what you have to and no more, kinda thing.


Back in reality land i do think the chances of them both now going injury free until the seasons end is slim.

Not to mention this being a World Cup year.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Could be United's last game without Shrek or RVR this weekend, so hopefully Swansea do a double over them. How hilarious would it be if they lost to the same mid-table team twice in a week at the swamp?

I can see them becoming more consistent in the second half if they can keep those two fit. I was glad to hear Garay is joining them in June and not January, though, as he'd improve their defence, and we don't want the rags suddenly improving a lot if we're to face them at Wembley.

When you know your season is not far from over and a bad one at that those injuries can magically pop up much more frequently.

I would not be surprised if the dutch docs have told RVP "don't put yourself out, if clubs see you are really fit at the end of the season your transfer to another club would be much smoother".
Or something to that effect, probably nonsense but many rumours of him wanting out so that would imo be prudent.
Don't stretch yourself just do what you have to and no more, kinda thing.

Back in reality land i do think the chances of them both now going injury free until the seasons end is slim.

It'll be Van Persie's last World Cup, I can't see him putting himself out for a team he'll probably be leaving anyway

 

[citycanada]

Every part of the USA is at record low temps right now. Don't know what they're on about, rug head is probably just down in London selling ticket packages for tomorrow.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

I think United are having to learn that there is no magic in their badge, that there is no such thing as "football genes" and certainly no genetic trend towards winning trophies. There is no magical formula for a successful football club apart from appointing the right people to do the job. In Ferguson they clearly had one of the "right" people, in Gill they clearly had someone who knew what he was doing and in the old plc they had people who kept the cash flowing. The Glazers have actually done well on increasing revenue, but have loaded the club with debt.

Ferguson retired - he didn't get out or jump ship - because he was too old to carry on. After the Sheikh arrived the word was that Ferguson knew that he could not keep City down indefinitely, but that he wanted to go out on "a high". Blowing an 8 point lead in the last six matches to see City crowned champions (especially in the final, heroic minutes of stoppage time) hit him harder than anyone could know. He admits to not having slept for weeks after and "hitting the bottle": his wife described it as one of the hardest times of his life. Had he won the title that season he would have retired then. Instead he shelled out £25 million on an injury prone Dutchman and bullied his team, match officials and the FA and PL to take him to one last title. And then he went, paving the way for the boy David, the natural successor.

Fortunately the boy David is nothing of a natural successor - he has no record to justify his appointment, unlike SAF when he arrived from Aberdeen. There were whispers that the coaching staff had no confidence in him and one by one they left. This coincided with the departure of Gill & Co. The two branches of the club were replaced by inexperience, and the rumours of unrest among the players have grown and grown. Manchester United has, in appearance at least, all the hallmarks of a dysfunctional organisation. This was shown clearly - and early - in the transfer window: flights lasting an eternity to complete spectacular transfer business which was never begun, players on their way to OT who never arrived, buy out clauses that wouldn't be triggered, players who found the lure of OT all too easy to resist. Then the paid over the odds for Fellaini - was this because Moyes needed a "big" player to please the crod? Or because the club needed to show Moyes (and the fans!) that it did have money and would spend it? Or was it Woodward who had to get any player to justify his job?

And to make it all so much worse there is a growing realisation - everywhere, even in the traditionally so loyal press - that the example of how a successful club is run is actually there, for all to see, in east Manchester. And what they're all seeing now is that when a club starts rolling down the slippery slope, the last place it shows is on the pitch.