United thread 2013/14

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BluessinceHydeRoad said:
I think United are having to learn that there is no magic in their badge, that there is no such thing as "football genes" and certainly no genetic trend towards winning trophies. There is no magical formula for a successful football club apart from appointing the right people to do the job. In Ferguson they clearly had one of the "right" people, in Gill they clearly had someone who knew what he was doing and in the old plc they had people who kept the cash flowing. The Glazers have actually done well on increasing revenue, but have loaded the club with debt.

Ferguson retired - he didn't get out or jump ship - because he was too old to carry on. After the Sheikh arrived the word was that Ferguson knew that he could not keep City down indefinitely, but that he wanted to go out on "a high". Blowing an 8 point lead in the last six matches to see City crowned champions (especially in the final, heroic minutes of stoppage time) hit him harder than anyone could know. He admits to not having slept for weeks after and "hitting the bottle": his wife described it as one of the hardest times of his life. Had he won the title that season he would have retired then. Instead he shelled out £25 million on an injury prone Dutchman and bullied his team, match officials and the FA and PL to take him to one last title. And then he went, paving the way for the boy David, the natural successor.

Fortunately the boy David is nothing of a natural successor - he has no record to justify his appointment, unlike SAF when he arrived from Aberdeen. There were whispers that the coaching staff had no confidence in him and one by one they left. This coincided with the departure of Gill & Co. The two branches of the club were replaced by inexperience, and the rumours of unrest among the players have grown and grown. Manchester United has, in appearance at least, all the hallmarks of a dysfunctional organisation. This was shown clearly - and early - in the transfer window: flights lasting an eternity to complete spectacular transfer business which was never begun, players on their way to OT who never arrived, buy out clauses that wouldn't be triggered, players who found the lure of OT all too easy to resist. Then the paid over the odds for Fellaini - was this because Moyes needed a "big" player to please the crod? Or because the club needed to show Moyes (and the fans!) that it did have money and would spend it? Or was it Woodward who had to get any player to justify his job?

And to make it all so much worse there is a growing realisation - everywhere, even in the traditionally so loyal press - that the example of how a successful club is run is actually there, for all to see, in east Manchester. And what they're all seeing now is that when a club starts rolling down the slippery slope, the last place it shows is on the pitch.
Excellent post apart from the reason Baconface left. I can tell you with 100% confidence that he walked after a row over money. He wanted one more crack at the CL but when Woodward told him there was going to be no deal for Ronaldo he knew that wouldn't be possible so he threw in the towel. They bought Fellaini because they had £30m to spend and needed to spend it on someone.
 
jrb said:
The Moyes effect.

By all accounts he's wiped over £300 mill off the clubs value so far.

The share price is now at..........

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I never thought it possible to crack one off over a New York Stock Exchange share price listing before.
I was wrong.
 
I find it very Interesting that the two players at utd who apparently want out are all of a sudden "injured"....
I have a hunch that they've both seen enough in half a season of what moyes is about or more to the point what he isn't about, said to their agents fuck this am off and have made sure they arn't cup tied and are wanting away.
Something has gone on there I'm telling you, rooney didn't look injured to me and van penis hasn't been the same since the purple nosed claret faced wilmslow wino left them in the shit.
I think there's a mountain of shit going on behind closed doors at the moyeseleum,it's just a matter of time before it goes completely tits up.
#tco
 
But, but, Dave is the *chosen One*.

Click to enlarge.

"DAVE IS THE CHOSEN ONE!" "DAVE IS THE CHOSEN ONE!"

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/H5cuBq0.jpg[/bigimg]
 
jrb said:
But, but, Dave is the *chosen One*.

Click to enlarge.

"DAVE IS THE CHOSEN ONE!" "DAVE IS THE CHOSEN ONE!"

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/H5cuBq0.jpg[/bigimg]
in all fairness you took that screenshot when only 219 people out of 659 million had voted.
 
aguero93:20 said:
jrb said:
But, but, Dave is the *chosen One*.

Click to enlarge.

"DAVE IS THE CHOSEN ONE!" "DAVE IS THE CHOSEN ONE!"

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/H5cuBq0.jpg[/bigimg]
in all fairness you took that screenshot when only 219 people out of 659 million had voted.

And 68 City fans voted for no. ;-)
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Excellent post apart from the reason Baconface left. I can tell you with 100% confidence that he walked after a row over money. He wanted one more crack at the CL but when Woodward told him there was going to be no deal for Ronaldo he knew that wouldn't be possible so he threw in the towel. They bought Fellaini because they had £30m to spend and needed to spend it on someone.

I first found out ferguson was leaving at the end of the season in march last year (something tolmie would verify as I discussed it with him at the time). This has been quite a long time in the pipeline, which makes the mess they have made of "the transition" all the more surprising.
 
manimanc said:
I find it very Interesting that the two players at utd who apparently want out are all of a sudden "injured"....
I have a hunch that they've both seen enough in half a season of what moyes is about or more to the point what he isn't about, said to their agents fuck this am off and have made sure they arn't cup tied and are wanting away.
Something has gone on there I'm telling you, rooney didn't look injured to me and van penis hasn't been the same since the purple nosed claret faced wilmslow wino left them in the shit.
I think there's a mountain of shit going on behind closed doors at the moyeseleum,it's just a matter of time before it goes completely tits up.
#tco
At first I began to chuckle at the perceived irony in this post, then began to realise that the contents are a distinct possibility. The scenarios look very feasible, well done manimanc, we'll wait and see.
 
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