United Thread 2015/16

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daztrueblue91 said:
The situation at United is perfectly understandable when you have to appease your legion of armchair sitting, daily star reading, plastic fans.

Instead of buying what they need in Otamendi and Pedro, they have though them players as not 'big enough' for United and instead gone on frivolous pursuits on the likes of Ramos and Neymar.

It's their delusion of self-importance that is holding them back and the way its going, us, Chelsea and Arsenal will leave them and Liverpool in the shadows.
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The rags transfer policy is like the gobby fucker in the pub who has a row with someone while he's with his mates. So when the other guy stands his ground , the gobby fucker shouts his mouth off , full of bravado whilst simultaneously telling his mates ' Hold me back'











The rags transfer policy is like the gobby fucker outside a pub shouting his mouth off , giving it the 'big Un' in front off his mates. So when he finally gets challenged he's still mouthing off whilst simultaneously telling his mates to 'HOLD ME BACK'
 
The huge glaringly obvious flaw in their thinking is that they actually believe that they can get back to where they were under the GPC.
Those days are gone , and they are gone for good.
Welcome to the real world , raggies.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
The huge glaringly obvious flaw in their thinking is that they actually believe that they can get back to where they were under the GPC.
Those days are gone , and they are gone for good.
Welcome to the real world , raggies.
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This is precisely the issue for them in a nutshell. In truth the last few years of GPC's reign were the start of the collapse - our internal bickering and fucking about meant we didn't mount a decent defence of our first PL title added to the fact they got vanPussy who then had an injury free year and a purple patch which if anything maintained the illusion that bit longer for them. But years of GPC bullying his way around hoovering up most of the talent gave way to what was really a period of treading water under the Glasers - then Wee Davey's appointment exposed all that and finally vanNutjob is called in to blunder around like the GPC but to far less effect. Thats it now - they are were they are and have owners who are not prepared to invest the squillions needed to attempt to get back there.

I think that the most telling thing is that Edwoodwoodwood is really a marketing guy and he is playing a blinder at that - going to Spain - "trying" to sign Pedro, same with Ramos, same with Bale and now the preposterous Neymar story - a signing for next season......... or maybe beyond that........ we all laugh and think he is a clown when in reality he is doing exactly what he is paid to do - sell the rags to the punters in terms of TV- season tickets- replica shirts - Chevrolet cars - he cannot be faulted in his skill in that role tbf
 
Bodicoteblue said:
The huge glaringly obvious flaw in their thinking is that they actually believe that they can get back to where they were under the GPC.
Those days are gone , and they are gone for good.
Welcome to the real world , raggies.
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We can't say that those days are gone for good because none of us know what the future holds. However, I do think there is an arrogance that courses through that club that makes them think that whatever happens they will always be in a position to challenge at the top end of the table. That arrogance has stemmed from the huge amount of success they enjoyed under Ferguson and they thought that it would simply carry on once he left. They thought that whoever they stuck in charge would be successful yet soon found out that Moyes was nowhere near accomplished enough. Never mind, LVG will sort it out instead - trouble is, while there has been some improvement they're still looking a fair way off being title challengers. You'd have thought they would have learnt their lesson from the failed Moyes reign that nothing is guaranteed in football. The whole infrastructure of the club needs to change - much of what is in place worked under Ferguson but once he went it was a structure that was soon exposed as being totally outdated. Maybe the Tactical Turtle is addressing this, who knows? However, with the likes of the Family Man having such a prominent role on the coaching staff I wouldn't be surprised if they think that carrying on as they are will eventually see the successful times return. I suppose if they throw as much money at it as they have been doing then that in itself may bring some success but it isn't exactly great planning.
 
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Bodicoteblue said:
The huge glaringly obvious flaw in their thinking is that they actually believe that they can get back to where they were under the GPC.
Those days are gone , and they are gone for good.
Welcome to the real world , raggies.
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Any club can be transformed by 2 or 3 great signings. So with the cash available they could always hit lucky and find the players they need to transform their team.
I will always be cautious when it comes to them. They have shown the signs of decline for years but they have bounced back before and have won so many games when they have been poor. They are a mess right now and in my book they are just coasting along at best i.e. the net quality of players in there squad is not getting any better or worse each window (when you consider the money being spent that is a pretty damming statement). However I can see them getting above the likes of Spurs and Liverpool again this year.
 
Realistically to be title contenders or even top 4 contenders they arguably require two or three top class defenders, a couple of midfielders and a couple of forwards. Teams will still bend over backwards for them and because of this they should finish top seven. However for them to finish top four they need to be picking up points from the scousers, Spurs, Chavs, us etc and I just can't see them doing this as primarily they are shite
 
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Realistically to be title contenders or even top 4 contenders they arguably require two or three top class defenders, a couple of midfielders and a couple of forwards. Teams will still bend over backwards for them and because of this they should finish top seven. However for them to finish top four they need to be picking up points from the scousers, Spurs, Chavs, us etc and I just can't see them doing this as primarily they are shite
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But...but...they are getting Ronaldo,Neymar,Pele, and Cuntona surely they will win the World Cup and everyfink with that line up?
 
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